Raziel
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Some replies in line above.sabrina said:[member="Raziel"] I am not overly concerned immigration, but you asked for silver lining. If immigration goes down as a result.
The supply of manpower will go down
1: This would reduce rent the young people pay, so may be less 40 years old living with there mum and dad.
2: House price would fall, as less people looking for homes
Far more likely to level off or a slight reduction. We have work for these migrants, they boost the GDP so the question should be "Why aren't we investing in more housing to curb prices?"
3: Wages will increase, as less people to fulfill the roles
Overall wages have Not decreased as a result of immigration. I can't stress this enough. Research shows that low to unskilled jobs have seen a decrease of 2% as a result of immigration. The wage gap between rich and poor and North and south has widened due TO OTHER FACTORS http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/research/Documents/workingpapers/2015/swp574.pdf
4: Easier to get your kids into a good school, as they have less competition.
There are 700,000 births every year. The most we stand to reduce immigration by is 100,000 a year. This is clearly a nonsense. A baby boom is the cause and underfunding, therefore reducing migration will not have the effect you're outlining.
"The ONS projections are based on future birth rates and population growth, including a “high population variant” adding a further 300,000 children aged 5-15 from 2019 onwards. That projection includes an additional 35,000 pupils from migration and 265,000 thanks to higher fertility."
5: They may get a better starter job
Based on? There is little to no evidence that migrants are reducing the chances of locals getting jobs. Particularly above zero skill factory work and more menial jobs, so if we're talking getting a better job...
But yes, there might be more jobs in the service industry, cleaning, etc. Not a huge deal, migration as a proportion of population is very small, and non EU migration is not going to drop as a result of this
6: Also due lack of workforce over 50's won't be on scrap heap as easily.
Unemployment is at a low, I can't stress this enough. Can you point me towards some evidence that over 50s are being fired because of EU migrants?
Though if migration does drop, yes our gdp would drop a bit, as less cheap work force.
Though if we do stay in the eec, with freedom of movement, as long as we have some safe guards then no issue.
This is not what freedom of labour entails.
Safeguards
1: They need a job before coming over here, and can support themselves.
2: The company hiring would need to also hire an apprentice, so our youth get training.
3: Job to be advertised over here first.
EU migrants contribute to the economy and are working for the country. They work more and place less drain on the economy than British people.
" 77% of working-age EU nationals were employed, 68% of British nationals in the same age bracket could say the same."
Also we only obliged to obey for what we export to the eu
I would be happy with something like that.
Also a another silver lining
with the weakening pound port talbot, might be saved, as strong pound was one the biggest issues with the plant.
You've cemented my opinion that many have been convinced that home grown problems are the fault of the EU.
