The Sith Council disbanded?!

[Darth Kentarch]

The fact is whoever becomes the Dlots whether he is an NPC or writer is going to get overthrown. I merely suggest that we speed up the process in the form of the Kaggath.

 

[Darth Ferus]

[member="Christian Slade"]

I believe there are Seven Voices. Each play the roll of the Dark Lord collectively. He's a shared character among a governing group of seven. No one person can turn the Dark Lord to their favor without the other six agreeing.

In a sense it's a Council OOC, while IC it looks like there's the Dark Lord, making it almost impossible for other PC's to try and usurp the fraction. It doesn't sound good now, but think of it as an insurance to make the Sith a major player again. This is the only way to make the Sith powerful with the map the way it is both IC and OOC. Once the Sith take over the galaxy, I'm more then certain that there will be the typical Sith power struggles.

 

[Darth Kentarch]

[member="Krest"] that could work. But this power struggle exist as much OOC as it does IC. And everyone expects everyone to yield to their version of unity.

 

[Christian Slade]

A multitude of people write the Dark Lord, all OOCly as well as ICly dedicated to what the One Sith stands for.

-shakes head-

I realize that multiple people write the Dark Lord, but who says he can't be killed? Who says he can? What happens when one writer's agenda clashes with another's? Sooner or later an NPC Dark Lord is going to be the end of your faction because one person wants to do one thing with him when another wants to do something else. The only way to have an NPC Dark Lord is to have a level headed Admin write up a new character and use it only for the purposes of addressing the Sith and what not. Other than that it would be left alone and out of the hands of those who might tarnish the idea.

You really think a handful of people can write one character? No, not at all. They'll come to a point where they are at odds with the overall direction of said character, NPC or not. Besides, NPC means none playable character, so why are you and the other Lords writing the Dark Lord anyway?

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

Not to mention that with the way people write Force users, duels go on usually until one person decides to be a good sport and loses….

The reason I think an NPC could be handy is because if you have the IC council elected entirely OOCly from the Sith Lords in the faction, they decide what this NPC does…effectively what the members want whilst giving it an IC legitimacy.
Having an IC leader hasn’t worked, so having multiple OOC elected leaders might.

It should also provide a more representative body for the members than one leader who wins IC.

We are, after all, a community, and it’s in our interest to set things up in a way that people have some stability in what they’re investing time into.

 

[Darth Vulcanus]

I have been inspired

http://starwarsrp.net/topic/26698-everyone-has-the-power-now/

my own idea of how to run it, I shall evolve it over time if needed!

 

[Christian Slade]

[member="Christian Slade"]

I believe there are Seven Voices. Each play the roll of the Dark Lord collectively. He's a shared character among a governing group of seven. No one person can turn the Dark Lord to their favor without the other six agreeing.

In a sense it's a Council OOC, while IC it looks like there's the Dark Lord, making it almost impossible for other PC's to try and usurp the fraction. It doesn't sound good now, but think of it as an insurance to make the Sith a major player again. This is the only way to make the Sith powerful with the map the way it is both IC and OOC. Once the Sith take over the galaxy, I'm more then certain that there will be the typical Sith power struggles.

It sounds flawed to me and it makes me hesitant to be a part of it.

 

[Darth Ferus]

[member="Darth Kentarch"]

That's why seven or more people would run it OOC. Majority rules. Fraction leaders all who want to make the One Sith work to rule the galaxy again.

[member="Christian Slade"]

Everything is flawed. The point is to push past the flaws and help others get around it.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

And therein lies the problem with anything which doesn’t take the members into account. Yes, not every Sith player will like what the majority decides, but it’ll be preferable that there IS a majority who thinks it.
Unity is important for an RPing faction.

 

[Christian Slade]

Not to mention that with the way people write Force users, duels go on usually until one person decides to be a good sport and loses….

The reason I think an NPC could be handy is because if you have the IC council elected entirely OOCly from the Sith Lords in the faction, they decide what this NPC does…effectively what the members want whilst giving it an IC legitimacy.
Having an IC leader hasn’t worked, so having multiple OOC elected leaders might.

It should also provide a more representative body for the members than one leader who wins IC.

We are, after all, a community, and it’s in our interest to set things up in a way that people have some stability in what they’re investing time into.

I ABSOLUTELY agree, but I don't see the point of an NPC Dark Lord. And OOC Council would be just as effective as the current one with a NPC Dark Lord. They're doing the same exact thing that they would with an NPC Dark Lord that they would if they didn't have an NPC Dark Lord.

A body of Sith Lords leading a faction... that's all it is... yet we're trying to act like it's something else because there's an NPC Dark Lord that is completely and totally not necessary. Lol

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

Because having an OOC ruling council with a PC Dark Lord still means someone has more power than the others. Or an OOC ruling council which is also the IC council creates problems of overlap too.

So by having an NPC there’s less personal projection involved.

 

[Darth Voracitos]

Huh, okay no one is interested in joining a hypothetical faction to settle our differences and power through our flaws. That's cool, I'll just go sit in that corner facing the wall crying and eating cake and ice cream as usual...

 

[Darth Kentarch]

I ABSOLUTELY agree, but I don't see the point of an NPC Dark Lord. And OOC Council would be just as effective as the current one with a NPC Dark Lord. They're doing the same exact thing that they would with an NPC Dark Lord that they would if they didn't have an NPC Dark Lord. A body of Sith Lords leading a faction... that's all it is... yet we're trying to act like it's something else because there's an NPC Dark Lord that is completely and totally not necessary. Lol

Probably the best idea yet.

 

[Christian Slade]

[member="Darth Kentarch"]

That's why seven or more people would run it OOC. Majority rules. Fraction leaders all who want to make the One Sith work to rule the galaxy again.

[member="Christian Slade"]

Everything is flawed. The point is to push past the flaws and help others get around it.

Fine, but if I can see that it isn't without flaw and speak up about it only to wait around for nothing to be done about it, is that a problem with or for everyone, is is that just my problem?

 

[Darth Vulcanus]

[member="Darth Voracitos"]

 

[Christian Slade]

Huh, okay no one is interested in joining a hypothetical faction to settle our differences and power through our flaws. That's cool, I'll just go sit in that corner facing the wall crying and eating cake and ice cream as usual...

I didn't say I wasn't interested. I wouldn't be having this debate if I didn't care.

 

[Darth Ferus]

Huh, okay no one is interested in joining a hypothetical faction to settle our differences and power through our flaws. That's cool, I'll just go sit in that corner facing the wall crying and eating cake and ice cream as usual...

But.. You a ghost? How does ice cream eating work x.x

 

[Darth Voracitos]

[member="Krest"] it usually lands on the ground, makes me want to eat it more and just generates an endless cycle of crying...

 

[Christian Slade]

Because having an OOC ruling council with a PC Dark Lord still means someone has more power than the others. Or an OOC ruling council which is also the IC council creates problems of overlap too.

So by having an NPC there’s less personal projection involved.

...We've got Administrators and Moderators to answer to if we act like morons. That's the point of having a Faction to begin with. Appoint multiple governing Sith Lords to a Council absent a Dark Lord to see who's Level headed enough to handle responsibility and if they can't then OOC enforcers step in and say, "Hey... stop acting like a moron."

You're telling me we need a mindless puppet to act as the Dark Lord so that the puppet Masters, being multiple Sith for god knows what reason, can control him anyway? They're already in control... What's the purpose of the Dark Lord then? I'm not intimidated by an NPC, I can assure you of that.

 

[Aran Finn]

IC, if I was a Sith, I would have a real problem with following a Dark Lord that I've never seen, and one that has achieved nothing in the galaxy. Shorn is the thronebreaker, Ashin Varanin defeated Moridin, Kaine Zambrano broke Dranok Lussk's spine, but when you get down to it, the NPC Dark Lord of the One Sith has achieved nothing tangible, and there is no reason IC for anyone but the Voices to actually believe he or she exists.