Tefka
L Admin
And if it becomes a real problem and nobody's doing anything about the guy spamming up the thread? Report him and see if Staff acts on it.
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Jsc
Disney's Princess
I didn't want to have to say anything, but "Spamming" is not included as a violation in the Site General Rules, or the Site Roleplaying Rules. Tef, if you want people to start using the Report button for IC violations like this... Well. Darn it. I'm not sure that's a good idea.Tefka said:
Precedence stands that all IC complaints that can't be mediated amongst the participating members be submitted to an RPJ for a moderation. Administration came after.
THE UNDEFEATED
@[member="Jay Scott Clark"], it isn't at all personal. It's an observation, I've been through many RP's and recently joined up here and I've already seen complaints regarding spamming in OOC. So, I think I speak for everyone when I say it's a problem. (Just had to edit twice, damn spell correct)
Tefka
L Admin
Members may use "precedence" as a defense, sure. I can use my authoritarian power to break it.
If a member is doing something wrong, we will investigate and come up with as just and fair a ruling as we can. There exists no rule for this particular instance because it is uncommon, but that doesn't mean we won't rule against the behavior. For instance, an example.
1. A member and another member have a one on one storyline and wish to wait for no others but role-play between themselves, thus "spamming up the thread". They get reported. We see no harm, no foul. We don't act.
2. A member is posting, regardless of post order or story, after every other member to pad his faction's post count in the Invasion, thinking that quantity of posts will be the deciding factory. He is adding nothing to the invasion or it's story. He gets reported, Staff asks him to calm down. Whether he complies or not judges if it will escalate from there.
It's really very simple, though each situation is different. If we get a buttload of reports? You'll see a rule bust out. Only because we don't want to keep repeating ourselves.
I really, honestly doubt this will ever happen, because community peer pressure will get to the person far before Staff does.
If a member is doing something wrong, we will investigate and come up with as just and fair a ruling as we can. There exists no rule for this particular instance because it is uncommon, but that doesn't mean we won't rule against the behavior. For instance, an example.
1. A member and another member have a one on one storyline and wish to wait for no others but role-play between themselves, thus "spamming up the thread". They get reported. We see no harm, no foul. We don't act.
2. A member is posting, regardless of post order or story, after every other member to pad his faction's post count in the Invasion, thinking that quantity of posts will be the deciding factory. He is adding nothing to the invasion or it's story. He gets reported, Staff asks him to calm down. Whether he complies or not judges if it will escalate from there.
It's really very simple, though each situation is different. If we get a buttload of reports? You'll see a rule bust out. Only because we don't want to keep repeating ourselves.
I really, honestly doubt this will ever happen, because community peer pressure will get to the person far before Staff does.
Tefka
L Admin
@Meta
OOC spamming is extremely hard to mitigate without getting up in people's grills and making this place generally not fun. There have been cases, however, where we have done so. I feel those cases were extreme and required Staff intervention, to the benefit of the community.
OOC spamming is extremely hard to mitigate without getting up in people's grills and making this place generally not fun. There have been cases, however, where we have done so. I feel those cases were extreme and required Staff intervention, to the benefit of the community.
THE UNDEFEATED
@[member="Jay Scott Clark"], no need for apologies here m'lady. *wink*
@[member="Tefka"], I can understand that. Back to my point regarding ideology, although I agree that if it is needed for the good of the community, actions should be made. But, luckily I haven't seen any of these extreme cases you refer too. Though, I do agree with you and Jay about different things, but I believe we can trust the moderators, judges and staff to do their job.
@[member="Tefka"], I can understand that. Back to my point regarding ideology, although I agree that if it is needed for the good of the community, actions should be made. But, luckily I haven't seen any of these extreme cases you refer too. Though, I do agree with you and Jay about different things, but I believe we can trust the moderators, judges and staff to do their job.
Jsc
Disney's Princess
Let me be clear. I'm not saying "Spamming" is a good thing. I tend to dislike it greatly myself. I'm just observing that it's not a violation of the printed Site Rules (at this point); and up until now Staff hasn't made any public statements regarding the issue. But I think we can now all see clearly that it is appropriate to approach Staff about anything that might be a violation. Written or perceived. Which is nice.Meta said:
Now. Considerably, I was only asking in my first post about the perception of people, not posting. I really didn't want to speak about the opposite. *sigh*
(I'm gonna go for a walk now)
Tefka
L Admin
@[member="Meta "]-
For further clarification, I believe I cannot stop spamming. Hence why the Posting Games forum exists to try and contain it.
For further clarification, I believe I cannot stop spamming. Hence why the Posting Games forum exists to try and contain it.
THE UNDEFEATED
I never would have considered you to think so.Jay Scott Clark said:
THE UNDEFEATED
@[member="Tefka"] I would imagine attempting such a feat would be an exhausting task.
Tefka
L Admin
@Meta
Maintaining this community is an exhausting task.
Maintaining this community is an exhausting task.
THE UNDEFEATED
@[member="Tefka"] and I don't know about others but we appreciate it, but don't let it get in the way of your life Tefka. Also, speaking of which. Do you often get to RP or are you generally still busy with other matters to play?
Tefka
L Admin
@Meta
I don't get to as much as I'd like, but I am currently in a handful of role-plays, yes.
I don't get to as much as I'd like, but I am currently in a handful of role-plays, yes.
Quietus
Hunting Again
Having a post-order for a group thread is nice, just like having bacon for a sandwich is also nice.
But bacon is not a requirement to make a good sandwich.
I'll chow on a good sandwich whether there is bacon or not, and if I really want bacon I'll wait a fair amount of time, snacking on other things, before I force my hand.
But bacon is not a requirement to make a good sandwich.
I'll chow on a good sandwich whether there is bacon or not, and if I really want bacon I'll wait a fair amount of time, snacking on other things, before I force my hand.
Darron Wraith
Honor | Duty | Courage
@[member="Lady Silencia"] I'm going to need you to think about what you said.
Bacon is always mandatory, never optional.
Bacon is always mandatory, never optional.
Silver Guardian
@[member="Jay Scott Clark"]
It depends on the nature of the thread.
If its a private thread, I can wait months, literally. If I have a quality thread with someone going on, or two people I am happy to wait a month or more to reply, no bother. I'll need a PM though when they get back into it, and if my character hasn't changed too much.
If its a faction invasion, skirmish or development thread it needs to keep moving so I'll wait a few days, and then move it on, because its not just me and the person involved. Other people will be counting on my posts as much as I may be counting on someone else, activity in these kinds of threads is important I think.
If its one of the many types in between balance like a mission or a bar fight, or a investigation I like to specify when I start a thread. If I haven't then I play it by ear with those involved.
It depends on the nature of the thread.
If its a private thread, I can wait months, literally. If I have a quality thread with someone going on, or two people I am happy to wait a month or more to reply, no bother. I'll need a PM though when they get back into it, and if my character hasn't changed too much.
If its a faction invasion, skirmish or development thread it needs to keep moving so I'll wait a few days, and then move it on, because its not just me and the person involved. Other people will be counting on my posts as much as I may be counting on someone else, activity in these kinds of threads is important I think.
If its one of the many types in between balance like a mission or a bar fight, or a investigation I like to specify when I start a thread. If I haven't then I play it by ear with those involved.
Tefka
L Admin
Jacen Cavill said:
I have to agree, and Silencia's full of poodoo.
Silver Guardian
I also want to say group training threads are the hardest decision for me to make, as I like to give a lot to students when I am writing Masters or Knights.
So if i've had 2 out of three respond it's tough to make a call in that case. I usually again specify it before we start.
So if i've had 2 out of three respond it's tough to make a call in that case. I usually again specify it before we start.