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Suggestion Write rules protecting Bounty Hunters invading Dominion threads without faction permission

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Yes:
  • It's more RP.
    • It's more opt-in unpredictable RP in the vein of public threads and First Reply. Having bountied and been bountified, I firmly believe that many RPers want to 'skip the boring part' and have new and memorable experiences. If you like your Dominion experience to be a rail shooter, it's as easy as keeping your toggle off.
  • It opens up possibilities for canny faction leaders.
    • New thread types/approaches are always worth exploring.
    • Some Dominions may just plain get done faster because of this.
  • Above all, individuals' toggles default to 'off' and take maybe three clicks to switch.
 
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I think the onus should be on the bounty hunter to obtain consent. Prewritten consent can be revoked IRL.

The toggle is abstract enough it might as well be a "DMs are Open" flag for Bounty Hunting.

A shortcut for avoiding communication with factions in a dominion seems like a quick trip to salt-fueled bounty based sabotage.

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I fail to see what that has to do with what I said. I'm saying a thread can specifically state they want to keep bounty hunters from specifically targeting that thread.
 
I do think Bounty Hunter's should need to ask the faction before hoping into Doms and Faction threads if only because one person "turning on and off" the bounty marker doesn't stop a thread from being completely derailed. You're not in one of these threads alone and the impact likely won't be isolated. Should Faction Owners have to tell every participant to turn their bounty toggle off to be able to stay on topic or achieve a specific goal? That seems a bit much.

It also doesn't make a lot of sense...Why do other Factions need to ask for permission but not Bounty Hunters? Usually, it's not a whole faction rolling into the thread but a person or two and effectively has the same impact.

Public threads are chaotic by nature and typically the wild west so it makes perfect sense for BH's to appear there. Faction threads and Dominions also don't need to go "fast" when they're already very lenient and just barred against "low effort" submissions. They rarely get held up.

There's nothing wrong with just asking to join. It only takes a moment of communication.

Overall: I just think it should be stated clearly in the rules one way or the other so people stop speculating and guessing. Members not understanding the rules as written is what can inhibit RP (especially BH rp) more than anything else.
 
I do think Bounty Hunter's should need to ask the faction before hoping into Doms and Faction threads if only because one person "turning on and off" the bounty marker doesn't stop a thread from being completely derailed. You're not in one of these threads alone and the impact likely won't be isolated. Should Faction Owners have to tell every participant to turn their bounty toggle off to be able to stay on topic or achieve a specific goal? That seems a bit much.

I feel it's reasonable to point out that Factions and Faction Staff bear a measure of responsibility in this. The option to reach out to a hypothetical bounty hunter and work out some kind of mutually beneficial agreement is always there.

If a story is so important that absolutely no one should be allowed to mess with it, then there are options to facilitate this. Private and Faction threads are explicitly invite-only, whereas dominions are currently not / ambiguous on this.
 
Okay, gut reaction aside and seeing how the poll is going, I can tell I'm in a minority here and that's fine there's the toggle and everything.

May I ask what others are expecting for the sort of protections for Bounty hunters in Dominions?
Protection from IC consequences or OOC falling out?
Just a "Bounty hunters may pursue bounties in Dominions (without being reported)." Addition to a rule? (Could they even be reported before?)

Presumably this means protections from OOC consequences, as I imagine IC consequences/retaliation such as a bounty placed on a bounty hunter who intervened would be welcomed. Probably also being ganked by the target's allies, and a rule stating the target/faction is not allowed to ignore the bounty hunter is not really something I think anyone's considering.

So – assuming OOC protections for Bounty hunters in Dominion threads are what people are thinking of – is it only protection from BH posts being reported and removed in this hypothetical?
 
Public threads are chaotic by nature and typically the wild west so it makes perfect sense for BH's to appear there. Faction threads and Dominions also don't need to go "fast" when they're already very lenient and just barred against "low effort" submissions. They rarely get held up.
The question I have about this is, aren't Doms and Faction threads technically still public threads? They're in the open roleplay threads category. Maybe they can also be set up in Private for just the faction if they don't want Bounty Hunters to jump in?
 
The question I have about this is, aren't Doms and Faction threads technically still public threads? They're in the open roleplay threads category. Maybe they can also be set up in Private for just the faction if they don't want Bounty Hunters to jump in?
From the faction war rules page for dominions:

  • Dominions allow Major Factions to claim entire hexes without direct competition from other factions.
  • A Dominion counts as a Player Vs Environment (PvE) thread
  • Other Major or Minor Factions may not interfere with a Dominion thread. They may participate as In-Character aid or opposition with the approval of the Faction Admins/Owner of the Major Faction undertaking the Dominion

From thread 'USING PREFIXES'
  • FACTION - This prefix is reserved for Faction-Only Member Roleplays*.
    • (I could not find what the asterisk meant)
 
From the faction war rules page for dominions:

  • Dominions allow Major Factions to claim entire hexes without direct competition from other factions.
  • A Dominion counts as a Player Vs Environment (PvE) thread
  • Other Major or Minor Factions may not interfere with a Dominion thread. They may participate as In-Character aid or opposition with the approval of the Faction Admins/Owner of the Major Faction undertaking the Dominion

From thread 'USING PREFIXES'
  • FACTION - This prefix is reserved for Faction-Only Member Roleplays*.
    • (I could not find what the asterisk meant)
Appreciate that. Though, loophole lol: Mentions other factions, not single entities.
 
I think protection just means it's explicitly stated in the rules that bounty hunters can join these threads to hunt. Csariden Csariden

Just a "Bounty hunters may pursue bounties in Dominions (without being reported)." Addition to a rule? (Could they even be reported before?)
So – assuming OOC protections for Bounty hunters in Dominion threads are what people are thinking of – is it only protection from BH posts being reported and removed in this hypothetical?

The way this is worded sounds to me like the implication is the rule might be added to protect harassment, which it's not and it's weird to me that the phrasing you used emphasizes being protected from reports specifically.
 
FACTION - This prefix is reserved for Faction-Only Member Roleplays*.
  • (I could not find what the asterisk meant)
I think though this could be changed with the rules for BH… which I’m down for.

Maybe they can also be set up in Private for just the faction if they don't want Bounty Hunters to jump in?
It giving “you can’t sit with us” that extends beyond the bounty hunter convo
 

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