Rules Reminder: Starships & New Major Factions

[Fabula Caromed]

As stated in Factory Rules:

• No ship over 2 kilometres will be approved for any faction, with exception of special RPJ-approved event technology.
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• An individual character may not create a ship greater than 400 meters in length. Such ships must be owned by a Faction (Major or Minor), and may be captained by the character, but in case of leaving will not go with them without exceptional circumstances. Station designs will be on a case by case basis, but do not expect them to be more than a handful of kilometres.
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• Minor factions are permitted unique, PC-captained ships up to a length of 1,000 meters. New Major factions are allowed mass-produced ships up to 1,000 meters in length.

This rule does not provide an exemption for canon ships. New major factions are not allowed to mass-produce any ship over 1km, no matter if it's official canon or not. I urge all members to familiarize themselves with site rules so that these misunderstandings don't happen.

 

[Matreya]

How long does being new pertain to? [member="Fabula Cavataio"]

 

[Onrai]

When did that happen?

 

[Gilamar Skirata]

[member="Enigma"]
Its been a rule since before the Starship guides

 

[Onrai]

[member="Gilamar Skirata"]

No... I mean, why was this reminder of it made? What sparked it?

 

[Popo]

[member="D-Man"]
Essentially, until a major faction does the Dev thread, they cannot use the aforementioned ships.

[member="Enigma"]
This has always been in effect, but it was deemed to require more clarification.

 

[Onrai]

[member="Popo"]

...I think I'm not saying it right. What event on the site sparked the necessity to remind people of this particular clarification to the ruleset?

 

[Popo]

[member="Enigma"]
I needed clarification on that rule and in the discussion it was deemed necessary to make the rule far more clear than what it was previously to prevent any further issues that might arise.

EDIT: Wow I sounded pompous. Essentially I wasn't sure on the rule and asked a question about it. It was decided to make it clear for the board in the answering of my question.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Enigma"]
I would say the One Sith’s invasion of the Republic without being able to have capital ships was a decent spur.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

The rule was extremely vague anyways.

If you don't want anyone to be unclear about rules, maybe you should make them clear in the first place.

 

[Alexandra Feanor]

Ha, where was this rule when the One Sith became a major. -grumbles-

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Alexandra Cinthra"]
It's been in effect since mid last year.

Recent circumstances have required a reminder to be made.

 

[Ashin Varanin]

New Major factions are allowed mass-produced ships up to 1,000 meters in length.

That's under 'Global Technology Rules', and it's been clearly stated and consistently interpreted by staff for a long, long time.

Ha, where was this rule when the One Sith became a major. -grumbles-

Same place it's always been. This is a reminder, not a new rule.

 

[Edward Vyperion]

Why did we need a reminder of this and not the no crossovers rule, cause there are always chances people wouldn't know it or in my one case, simply forget it easily.


Seriously, stop asking about your factory submissions in vaguely related threads. It's the same as bumping a submission. There's an entire forum dedicated to talking about the Factory; the Staff Announcements forums is not it.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Alcastor G1"]
Because this rule's focus is more limited to major factions.

The no crossover rule has existed from the very start. Reading rules is helpful.

As for your question, ask the factory staff, not in this thread.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

The rule was extremely vague anyways.

If you don't want anyone to be unclear about rules, maybe you should make them clear in the first place.

The rule is pretty clear from where I'm standing. "No mass-produced ships over 1km" is really clear, actually. It doesn't say "no Factory-produced ships over 1km" or "no retrofitted canon ships over 1km." It says "no mass-produced ships over 1km."

PC-captained ships are allowed. Mass-produced ships used in bulk are not. This has been in the rules for much longer than I have been on staff. The fact that it hasn't come up until now shows how well the members of this board on the whole have acquiesced to it.

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

Don't let any fancy toys of over 1 km slip past the Factory, folks. Simple as that.

 

[Dissero]

What if it's a 1km long slip-and-slide?


Always thought these rules were clear as they stood. Doesn't hurt to issue reminders, lots of new blood running around anyway.

 

[Nyxie]

So, surprisingly, now I'm confused. Just for absolute clarification; are new major factions allowed to MP 1,001+ ships once they complete the shipyards development thread, or are new major factions simply not allowed to have 1,001+ ships until such and can then produce them in limited quantities? It's of no relevance to me but I just thought I'd find out.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

At any time, a major faction can have a ship of any legal length (2km is the upper limit on all ships) in unique or limited production. These ships must be PC captained, just as the minor faction rule about 1km ships. Mass-produced ships captained by NPCs are not allowed until etc etc.

It's exactly what it sounds like. 1km is the upper limit. It's been respected quite well so far, hence why this rule hasn't been brought up until now.