Removal of the "Terms" Rule

[Darth Kentarch]

You know guys, I got the Rome 2 game, and I hoped after playing for a few hours this whole invasion thing would be sorted out. I was wrong.

 

[Josh Dragovalor]

If these was why the Carida invasion was locked, and appears not to be going ahead at any time soon, then this is plain Out of Character interference inheriting, abusing and stopping In Character from happening. There are only three times and three times only when OOC should be used to stop IC:

• When the In Character actions of person(s) are being used and/or instigated against another person(s) as a direct attack on the writer(s). I.E: You're just attacking these person(s) because you don't like them OOC.
• When the In Character actions of person(s) are malformed due to misinformation or lack of knowledge of In Character obstacles or preparation. I.E: You've just landed in a ruin on Dromund Kaas, that is currently under Mandalorian occupation, but didn't know before writing the post in question that said base/defenses were not there.
• When the In Character actions of person(s) are unfair, unrealistic and/or Godmerru against another person(s). I.E: Darth Iscariot.

Now, getting back to this rule and the Carida invasion, in which I am guessing this is about, I want to ask the community this:

• In Character, what is stopping the One Sith continuing their invasion of the Galactic Republic and subsequent purge of the Jedi Order?
• What is stopping the Galactic Republic and Jedi Order counter attacking against the One Sith and their invasion of the Republic and subsequent purge of the Jedi?
• Why should Out of Characters agreements made affect In Character invasions?

Discuss.

Why the Sith have been able to invade twice in a row and the Republic have failed to counter invade once, as well, is beyond me.

 

[Captain Larraq]

- Show respect to everyone in the role-play. -

I'm not an authority figure in the least, but everything I've seen done in PM's and with the general "we're posting anyway" decision and the blatant ignoring of the RPJ involved in the discussion and attempts to go over her head show a general lack of respect for the Republic, the writers and admins of said faction, and staff in general.

 

[Captain Larraq]

The Republic is still locked in an invasion on Ord Mantell and cannot take counter actions until the thread draws to a close.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Darth Kentarch"]
Considering how broken Rome 2 is...it seems oddly fitting to be mentioned here.

 

[Darth Kentarch]

@Valeria Aeteni, I dont have a problem playing it all.

 

[Rhaec'Teth]

Rome 2 is great. Love that game.

 

[Lord Ghoul]

Gah. Wish I had a computer that played Rome 2. All I got's a crappy mac laptop. The previous titles in the series were all beautiful.


Also, invasions. *obligatory dead horse beating ad nauseam*

 

[Darth Carnifex]

All I got's a crappy mac laptop.

I'm so sorry.

 

[Saera Willamina Savan]

All I got's a crappy mac laptop.

These feels. *hugs*
I'm on an Intel-based MacBook from 2006. Somebody lost my gaming desktop in storage when we moved.

 

[Alli Vern]

[member="Vilox Pazela"]
We will unlock the Carida invasion when we unlock it. Please respect the process. As the rules are currently, if no compromise can be reached, RPJ's step in, as this has indeed been the case we felt it the best move to lock the thread till something can be worked out.

 

[Alli Vern]

[member="Valeria Aetani"]

But Rome 2 is awesome!

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Alli Wren"]
...No, no it is not.

 

[Writer]

[member="Valeria Aetani"] - I am dying for Heroes of the Storm.

Yay for Blizzards own version of LoL!

Anyways. <3

 

[Darth Kentarch]

Yeah I was extremely skeptical when I read the reviews, but it was half off for the summer sale, and the computer I use is a 4K device custom built for gaming. So yeah. Runs with no problems.

 

[J3C0]

- Show respect to everyone in the role-play. -

I'm not an authority figure in the least, but everything I've seen done in PM's and with the general "we're posting anyway" decision and the blatant ignoring of the RPJ involved in the discussion and attempts to go over her head show a general lack of respect for the Republic, the writers and admins of said faction, and staff in general.

I've asked multiple times that you stop insulting both me and my faction members, if you do it again i will report you. If you can't say something nice or constructive, don't say anything at all.

As for Rome 2. It was buggy at first but has since seen many fixes. I greatly enjoy the game, especially when starting out as one of the eastern factions, as it makes the game more difficult.

 

[Darth Vazela]

Nobody has played real Rome: Total War on a Very Hard campaign as Parthia. Trust me, it's beyond difficult.

 

[Ereza]

I would have to disagree as well, and here's why,

In the Invasion of Silken Asteroids I have seen a breakdown of communications between two factions prior to engagement, i.e. there was little discussion between the factions before the Invasion as this rule would set in place.
The effects were really disheartening, plenty of bickering and OOC drama being involved into the Invasion, members leaving in frustration multiple times, harsh words being said.

That...was an unfair example to use because from the outside looking in, yes it did appear as though there was a "breakdown of communication" between factions. The reality of it was, every effort was made for communication between factions, there was simply a slip-up of communication and understanding within Moross. An honest mistake was made in posting the invasion before discussions about it were finished. It wasn't a breakdown and the rules were not purposefully ignored or broken.

The current invasion rules are, IMO, fine. But if there is way to refine them and further define them, I believe that would help in some instances.

 

[Helmut Todstern]

I love, and dislike, how these discussions become mud slinging fights instead of actual discussions. "How dare you" comments are often more common replies than, say, "Here's where I find errors in your concept."

So let's slow down and look at the first post: mainly, that Invasions are initially fair, and the attacking faction may want to apply extra rules, but the current rule requires long term discussions as if all Invasion plans want the extra rules, whether or not they truly need them; additionally, that "blitzkrieg" strategies are fun in a roleplay context, but with the long term discussions, the "rush" tactics wear away the excitement. That's the theory put forward.

Now at 7-8 pages in, its a discussion about IC vs OOC, the discussion process itself and, from what I've read, a lot of actual good ideas. I mean, deep down in the end, we're a community. And the better we evolve as a community, whether it be positive discussions or less mud-slinging, we'll be much better off for it in the end.

 

[Aran Finn]

And this is why we have rules, guys. Because we can't get along. Think about that.