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Removal of the "Terms" Rule
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This is false. No rules have been removed by any member of the One Sith.Joshua DragonsFlame said:
The Mentor
[member="Tefka"] Edited.
D O M I N U S
[member="Evelynn Zambrano"]
I sincerely doubt that a site wide vote would devolve into the vocal majority "winning". If it's the will of the site, so be it. That said, there's been attempts at discussion for these past...what, hundred posts? But the end result is two people wanting the rule gone and the rest not.
And I'm not insufferable dammit. I'm fabulous.
I sincerely doubt that a site wide vote would devolve into the vocal majority "winning". If it's the will of the site, so be it. That said, there's been attempts at discussion for these past...what, hundred posts? But the end result is two people wanting the rule gone and the rest not.
And I'm not insufferable dammit. I'm fabulous.
Captain Larraq
Capitalist
Democracy not this be.
Tefkocity it is.
Tefkocity it is.
D O M I N U S
[member="Captain Larraq"]
Tef's technically on vacation...so maybe...just mayyyybeeeehhhhh we can ruffle our Bald Eagle feathers and let democracy reig-
*is shot*
#TyrannyRe-*shot*
Tef's technically on vacation...so maybe...just mayyyybeeeehhhhh we can ruffle our Bald Eagle feathers and let democracy reig-
*is shot*
#TyrannyRe-*shot*
L Admin
Despite Kyra attempting to shoo me away, I can't ever really leave. I'll be around during the weekends.Isley Verd said:
Also, to like every one of your other points - no, lol. Also, stop conjecturing - you don't know how many people back this idea. For example, you said "only two people support this". You clearly didn't count me.
Who else didn't you count?
D O M I N U S
[member="Tefka"]
Thank you for epitomizing why I think a vote should be tossed up. All those people I've "missed" can vote for the rule to be removed.
Thank you for epitomizing why I think a vote should be tossed up. All those people I've "missed" can vote for the rule to be removed.
L Admin
If this does go up for a vote, it will not be the deciding factor of the ruling - that burden would lie on Staff's shoulders. There's a lot to consider; for example, I do not support this change for the same reasons I'd suppose the One Sith would.
I do not believe an ultimatum of "should it exist, should it not exist" should occur. Instead, more along what [member="Jorus Merrill"] posted earlier: what should the ruling become? How should it be reworded.
I do not believe an ultimatum of "should it exist, should it not exist" should occur. Instead, more along what [member="Jorus Merrill"] posted earlier: what should the ruling become? How should it be reworded.
D O M I N U S
[member="Tefka"]
A vote would serve to illustrate the overall opinion of the board on the matter, aside from just the vocal few who have been butting heads for the past couple hours. From that point, well, staff's hired to deal with such burdens so the ball would be in their court.
A vote would serve to illustrate the overall opinion of the board on the matter, aside from just the vocal few who have been butting heads for the past couple hours. From that point, well, staff's hired to deal with such burdens so the ball would be in their court.
L Admin
Furthermore, I agree with the point JSC (fictional name, not his IRL acronym - privacy concerns cited) brought up. The ruling was created for a reason to begin with. It is Staff's duty to examine the current environment of Invasions and opine whether or not the ruling is still fit to be adapted to modern times. We've come across such archaic rulings before, and will again.
While my statement to Darth Shara in the Staff Critique thread was correct - a public majority of the community is the fastest way to achieve change - it is also the rarest way to achieve change, because as we've seen - it's hard to accomplish.
Most change comes from the SWRP Staff Team after discussion and deliberation, and is executed by the Owner or in his place, the Head Administrator.
While my statement to Darth Shara in the Staff Critique thread was correct - a public majority of the community is the fastest way to achieve change - it is also the rarest way to achieve change, because as we've seen - it's hard to accomplish.
Most change comes from the SWRP Staff Team after discussion and deliberation, and is executed by the Owner or in his place, the Head Administrator.
Louise
here for your dad
Honestly, when it comes down to it we're all from different places with different paces. Have a story:
Pirate faction. Absolutely rocking it. High morale, super active. Wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am.
Band of evil doers, traitors and monsters. All in the name of chaos.
Setting:
It's Friday, there's this speed RP called the Friday Night RP on. Leader of the little band of chaos has this all sorted out. We attack the pirate's ship during the FNRP when they're all distracted by this fast-paced event. No prior warning. No permission. Just: HERE IS THE THREAD, HAHAHAHAHAHA! This was their flagship, their big ship. Ship of dreams, ship of wonders.
Initially of course the scoundrels were cursed out for these tactics but I'll be damned if it wasn't a fantastic bloody riot of a thread that created so many interesting and riveting stories.
And you know what? The pirate faction never recovered from that attack, and they petered out of existence. Wah. Weh. Wowee. But another criminal element rose from the ashes, and when that died something new came. Everyone remained friends, even if we all decided that the perpetrator of the ambush was a shifty-mo-wifty and that we'd never trust him again.
I'm sure it's scary, the prospect of losing what you've put writing into achieve, but there's a bigger picture. Factions come. Factions fall. Planets get owned by Faction A. and they get owned by Faction B. Nothing lasts forever.
Honestly, I hate objective driven takeovers, they don't have a natural feel to me and getting bogged down by all this red-tape terms nonsense just kills my fun button like nothing else. I understand where you're coming from, but come and stand over here with me and take a look at my vision of Chaos.
Pirate faction. Absolutely rocking it. High morale, super active. Wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am.
Band of evil doers, traitors and monsters. All in the name of chaos.
Setting:
It's Friday, there's this speed RP called the Friday Night RP on. Leader of the little band of chaos has this all sorted out. We attack the pirate's ship during the FNRP when they're all distracted by this fast-paced event. No prior warning. No permission. Just: HERE IS THE THREAD, HAHAHAHAHAHA! This was their flagship, their big ship. Ship of dreams, ship of wonders.
Initially of course the scoundrels were cursed out for these tactics but I'll be damned if it wasn't a fantastic bloody riot of a thread that created so many interesting and riveting stories.
And you know what? The pirate faction never recovered from that attack, and they petered out of existence. Wah. Weh. Wowee. But another criminal element rose from the ashes, and when that died something new came. Everyone remained friends, even if we all decided that the perpetrator of the ambush was a shifty-mo-wifty and that we'd never trust him again.
I'm sure it's scary, the prospect of losing what you've put writing into achieve, but there's a bigger picture. Factions come. Factions fall. Planets get owned by Faction A. and they get owned by Faction B. Nothing lasts forever.
Honestly, I hate objective driven takeovers, they don't have a natural feel to me and getting bogged down by all this red-tape terms nonsense just kills my fun button like nothing else. I understand where you're coming from, but come and stand over here with me and take a look at my vision of Chaos.
What page is the alternate on...I'm losing track of the true objective here.
And being new I'm trying to establish the pros/cons and significance of it all.
This rule can be a game-changer for my characters to some degree, NOT SAYING, this only applies to just me...I'm just saying I'm curious as to why those are for and why those are against.
And being new I'm trying to establish the pros/cons and significance of it all.
This rule can be a game-changer for my characters to some degree, NOT SAYING, this only applies to just me...I'm just saying I'm curious as to why those are for and why those are against.
Well, one thing I do have an issue with about Invasions as a whole, is if you're going to initiate something on such a grand scale, do this whole "PVP" thing, then call it in mid-battle as communication between Faction Coordinators...the thread dies out and then the story becomes literally unfinished.
Characters left hanging in the balance going "Uh...?" And you have to make up what happened afterwards. If you want to remove a rule about Invasions, I think there should be some sort of agreement more than "Oh we talked and agree that the Republic just lost their backside and Coruscant with it." Not saying that is what happened or what determined it but realistically there were still fights and people doing big things on the ground when that was called and then the thread went right into the trash.
How can you really consider the Invasion fulfilled?
In all honesty, I'm on the fence. I understand the need for communication and coordination but then surprises are nice too...and if I'm right, then this is what this is all about?
Characters left hanging in the balance going "Uh...?" And you have to make up what happened afterwards. If you want to remove a rule about Invasions, I think there should be some sort of agreement more than "Oh we talked and agree that the Republic just lost their backside and Coruscant with it." Not saying that is what happened or what determined it but realistically there were still fights and people doing big things on the ground when that was called and then the thread went right into the trash.
How can you really consider the Invasion fulfilled?
In all honesty, I'm on the fence. I understand the need for communication and coordination but then surprises are nice too...and if I'm right, then this is what this is all about?
Ayden Cater
Grumpy Goat
Objectives are generally decided by fights or duels. And no one's gonna go into a fight with literally no idea or objective on what to do. So I admit that I don't understand the problem here.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Darth Vazela
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If these was why the Carida invasion was locked, and appears not to be going ahead at any time soon, then this is plain Out of Character interference inheriting, abusing and stopping In Character from happening. There are only three times and three times only when OOC should be used to stop IC:
- When the In Character actions of person(s) are being used and/or instigated against another person(s) as a direct attack on the writer(s). I.E: You're just attacking these person(s) because you don't like them OOC.
- When the In Character actions of person(s) are malformed due to misinformation or lack of knowledge of In Character obstacles or preparation. I.E: You've just landed in a ruin on Dromund Kaas, that is currently under Mandalorian occupation, but didn't know before writing the post in question that said base/defenses were not there.
- When the In Character actions of person(s) are unfair, unrealistic and/or Godmerru against another person(s). I.E: Darth Iscariot.
- In Character, what is stopping the One Sith continuing their invasion of the Galactic Republic and subsequent purge of the Jedi Order?
- What is stopping the Galactic Republic and Jedi Order counter attacking against the One Sith and their invasion of the Republic and subsequent purge of the Jedi?
- Why should Out of Characters agreements made affect In Character invasions?