--and now that I've already said yes, I'll say out loud how badly I wanted to add that the invasion admin should pretty please be allowed to give optional tasks for the invading factions to complete for bonus points, UCs, etc. al la Taskmaster.
Since the vote is concluding, I'll offer this so the community, the RPJs, the Admins, everyone can see it, reference it, know it.
I do agree, I think it would be interesting for Invasion Admins to be more involved, even perhaps as Dungeon Master-type roles to help assist in content generation and idea generation. I think even a simple majority of the Galaxy (Chaos) would support this, if for no other reason than to support the Admins and open up the room for more Chaos.
I disagree, unfortunately and ultimately, that Invasion Admins - or the SWRP Staff Team - should be afforded this role or ability. Our role is overbearing enough, massive enough. It opens us up to so many dangers, uneccessary dangers, that can be circumvented by partaking in the roleplay without the OOC supercharged abilities or the albatross hanging around the MFO's neck of "You have to let me do this." Though for the majority of this thread I have preached that the MFOs should absorb this responsibility entirely, I am not ignorant of how much work it takes for an MFO to organize or orchestrate something like an Invasion. I do not wish to add the stress of "dealing with an Admin IC", ontop of already having to deal with us OOC. I believe they can manage just fine, and I believe the direction of these threads (of their own invention) should be of their own choosing.
Lastly, it would be against the spirit and decade long precedence of Chaos we have set ourselves: organic roleplay trumps all other types of roleplay. While we do lie to ourselves occasionally about how organic it is, with all our systems and rules bloat, shortcutting an Invasion Admin directly into the roleplay itself would dogwhistle that we prefer the control ourselves. To take even a small bite of the cake that is IC is to signal that the cake is entirely ours to eat, and that is not my desire, nor do I think it is the SWRP Staff Team's. Still, an interesting idea, just not one that can survive in our environment. Definitely not the PvP environment.
In my humble "I created everything the light touches" opinion, we don't decide the direction of RP as Admins, we facilitate it. Then we judge it. I do think the SWRP Staff Team needs to hear this on occasion, as our own hubris and authority is completely unchecked except by ourselves. If we do not stop ourselves from overreach, no one will.
Elrond raised his eyes and looked at him, and Frodo felt his heart pierced by the sudden keenness of the glance. 'If I understand aright all that I have heard,' he said, 'I think that this task is appointed for you, Frodo, and that if you do not find a way, no one will. This is the hour of the Shire-folk when they arise from their quiet fields to shake the towers and counsels of the Great. Who of all the Wise could have foreseen it? Or, if they are wise, why should they expect to know it, until the hour has struck?
5 Yes's, supermajority passes, thank you for agreeing to the public vote, Admins.
Community, we have never before had a public vote by the Admins, but this is how it goes, so you really don't get more transparent than this. Enjoy, it won't happen for another decade. We'll keep it open so you can continue to discuss if you want.
Collector
has less bargaining power now in their vote, but they can still use it to great effect to raise issues, possibly causing another Admin to retract or ask to change their vote. Thats why you want to know where most Admins lie before you vote on a proposal. However, despite Collector knowing I can lose their vote and still pass this ruleset, they also know it looks better if we can say “unanimous vote” for PR after - meaning we solved all issues the Admins had prior to approval.
