New Rules: Rebellions

[Valiens Nantaris]

Purge them all....

 

[Ilias Nytrau]

This. I love it. IT MAKES SENSE.

 

[Verz Horak]

@[member="Tefka"] I want to have your babies this is epic

Well that escalated quickly

 

[Lilicky]

"It's time."

uhhh.... I mean

"Biscuits?"

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

@[member="Verz Horak"]
@[member="Tefka"] receives a lot of breeding requests. Usually from Circe.

 

[Arumi Zy]

@[member="Tamara"] I will haz your babies to

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

To what?
@[member="Arumi Zy"]

 

[Matreya]

@[member="Tefka"], say theres a rebellion in the Mandalorians, would the rebels also get the Beskar perk?

 

[Tefka]

Source: http://starwarsrp.net/topic/14385-restricted-items-list/


[SIZE=10pt]Beskar (([/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]Objective:[/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]Perform a mining operation, a raid, an excavation, or steal to obtain Mandalorian Iron Ore from any of the following planets: Mandalore, Concordia[/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]–OR—[/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]suffer a devastating defeat at the hands of a Mandalorian character. Characters belonging to the Major Faction whose influence covers Mandalore and/or Concordia are exempt from fulfilling this objective. ))[/SIZE]

 

[Matreya]

So then no? Even if the Mandalorian lose Mandalore and Concordia? Also, at that time, does the effect then be nullified?

Im asking as i don't like leaving things to stipulation. Don't wanna waste another couple months n find out that there are more hidden variables

@[member="Tefka"]

 

[Tefka]

Characters belonging to the Major Faction whose influence covers Mandalore and/or Concordia are exempt from fulfilling this objective.

It's pretty black and white. Your influence cloud must cover either Mandalore or Concordia. As Capital Planets are immune to Rebellions, only Concordia could be targeted by a Rebellion. You'd then have to first *win* a Rebellion over Concordia to gain Influence over it.

 

[Matreya]

So then no? Yes?

By saying wed have to win Concordia, it could be inferred that yes we could bypass the dev threads then, with enough rebel activity. But you turned it down in the beginning.

I just figure that logically, if Concordia (or any planet with rare durable minerals like that) fell any rebels topside would do their best to gather the ore.

Edit:
Also, technically by the rules of making a rebellion, the rebels themselves should be considered part of the Mandalorians

@[member="Tefka"]

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

Characters belonging to the Major Faction whose influence covers Mandalore and/or Concordia are exempt from fulfilling this objective.

It literally gets no simpler than that. You're looking for loopholes that don't exist. You either own the planets, or you don't. If you don't, you don't get it for free. See:

Perform a mining operation, a raid, an excavation, or steal to obtain Mandalorian Iron Ore from any of the following planets: Mandalore, Concordia

 

[Tefka]

Also, technically by the rules of making a rebellion, the rebels themselves should be considered part of the Mandalorians

This is true. But they gain the perk as part of the Mandalorians Major Faction. The following was your original question:

@[member="Tefka"], say theres a rebellion in the Mandalorians, would the rebels also get the Beskar perk?

The answer here is no, they would not. "But they get the perk by default by being members of the Mandalorians." Which is true, yes. However, here's what the rule stipulates, as posted before:

Characters belonging to the Major Faction whose influence covers Mandalore and/or Concordia are exempt from fulfilling this objective.

So the Major Faction gains the perk, and subsequently it's members. The question that remains, though, that I can't answer is - what will a Major Faction do with it's Rebellious members? Kick them out of the Major Faction? If that were to happen, then you'd lose the perk while the Rebellion was ongoing. Because no specific member gains the perk - only the Major Faction.

However, if the Rebellion succeeds, the Rebel Faction becomes a Major Faction. If the Rebellion was on Concordia, this Rebel Faction-turned-Major Faction will now have a new influence cloud covering Concordia, thus satisfying the expectation of the rule for Beskar - and subsequently granting the perk to all of it's members.

 

[Arage Bao]

Let's consider this logically for a second, where do Mandalorians get their Beskar? From Mandalore and Concordia.

If you as a Mandalorian Splinter Group decide to rebel against the Mandalorian Major Faction and start the rebellion somewhere -besides- Mandalore (which cannot be rebelled anyway by the rules) or Concordia, you do not have access to Beskar.

It does not matter if you are a Mandalorian or not. To get Beskar, you have to 'own' the planet where the resource is located, simple.

--edit--

By those rules, your Major Faction can be the Republic, the Sith Empire and if Mandalore/Concordia is in their influence cloud, they will exempted from the challenge rule for beskar.

 

[Tefka]

It does not matter if you are a Mandalorian or not.

To continue the clarification, though, it does matter if you're a member of the Mandalorian faction.

 

[Arage Bao]

Does it? Because the rules only state you have to be a member of the Major Faction that controls one out of two planets. It does not clarify that said faction has to be Mandalorian. Which would make sense, I grant.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

Does it? Because the rules only state you have to be a member of the Major Faction that controls one out of two planets. It does not clarify that said faction has to be Mandalorian. Which would make sense, I grant.

The Mandalorian faction owns it. That's why he said >member of the Mandalorian Faction
not
>Mandalorian

 

[Tefka]

To continue the clarification, though, it does matter if you're a member of the Mandalorian faction Major Faction whose Influence Cloud currently covers the planets Mandalore and Concordia.

 

[Tefka]

By those rules, your Major Faction can be the Republic, the Sith Empire and if Mandalore/Concordia is in their influence cloud, they will exempted from the challenge rule for beskar.

This is correct. The rules were written under the assumption that the current owners of those planets will not always be the owners of those planets.

Since we're getting all real specificky and stuff, I'd like to clarify that it's "Mandalore and/or Concordia" that can cause this to happen. One faction can own Concordia, another can own Mandalore, and both Major Factions will be exempt.