defy the tyrannous stars
Writing this from mobile as a storm has knocked out my wireless, so apologies if this is less coherent/more error prone than usual, but as this project was something I helped coordinate I thought I'd share some thoughts.
Personally, I think the Jedimoot thread exceeded expectations. Veiere will remember, as do I, that many vets told us this was bound to go nowhere, that we would be lucky to even finish the thread, let alone come away having made any sort of tangible difference.
Granted, we have not reunified the Order or begun a crusade against the Darkside, but that was never going to happen and I don't think that qualifies as a failure. The fact is, if people wanted one Order there would be one Order, and if the majority wanted a Jedi crusade there would be one. But too many of us are too pacifistic IC or too disillusioned with the map game OOC, so let's look at what we did accomplish.
Acknowledgment Between Orders: I know this may seem like a small one, but considering it's never happened in an official context IC on this scale before, I absolutely am willing to count it. In the past year or so more orders have popped up than just the Silvers and NJO, and to be able to establish an IC connection is vital for future cooperation between these groups. Now we have a common event that is public knowledge for people to look back on and reference.
Jedi UN: This has been called a couple other things, including Jedi Confederacy and Jedi Embassy, but basically the fact that we agreed to establish a neutral ground for communication and dialogue is huge. Now if something impacts one Order IC, it is much more reasonable and logical for the others to hear about it quickly and send help.
The Sith are Bad, Mmkay: Perhaps this one doesn't bear mentioning, but I for one think it was significant progress that we could all at least agree that Sith are bad dudes, and we should try to stop them from doing bad dude things if we can. I know some are hesitant about large scale conflict, but honestly I'll take our agreement that there is a problem as it establishes our common foe, which is Darkside users dedicated to eclipsing the light.
I really do sympathize with people's frustrations that this thread couldn't do more/be more/get done a lot quicker, but given the limitations we had going in (being from different factions, having different attitudes towards PvP) have not changed honestly this is a good outcome in my book. We may not have chosen a new Grandmaster-in-Chief, but is that what we really wanted? If so, perhaps we should reexamine our approach.
If you want to see tangible results of this initiative, you need look no further than the embassy thread on Coruscul that just started which is even now establishing the background for a cross-factional Jedi location, and is considerably more open to participation than the Jedimoot was.
I don't mean to sound like I want to shut down the conversation, if there are those who believe our efforts have fallen short of their hopes in some way I absolutely think we should discuss ways to keep improving relations and other options, but I think it's important we acknowledge what has been accomplished and the effort put into that from all sides. I am very proud of the way you have all come together despite the skepticism.
Personally, I think the Jedimoot thread exceeded expectations. Veiere will remember, as do I, that many vets told us this was bound to go nowhere, that we would be lucky to even finish the thread, let alone come away having made any sort of tangible difference.
Granted, we have not reunified the Order or begun a crusade against the Darkside, but that was never going to happen and I don't think that qualifies as a failure. The fact is, if people wanted one Order there would be one Order, and if the majority wanted a Jedi crusade there would be one. But too many of us are too pacifistic IC or too disillusioned with the map game OOC, so let's look at what we did accomplish.
Acknowledgment Between Orders: I know this may seem like a small one, but considering it's never happened in an official context IC on this scale before, I absolutely am willing to count it. In the past year or so more orders have popped up than just the Silvers and NJO, and to be able to establish an IC connection is vital for future cooperation between these groups. Now we have a common event that is public knowledge for people to look back on and reference.
Jedi UN: This has been called a couple other things, including Jedi Confederacy and Jedi Embassy, but basically the fact that we agreed to establish a neutral ground for communication and dialogue is huge. Now if something impacts one Order IC, it is much more reasonable and logical for the others to hear about it quickly and send help.
The Sith are Bad, Mmkay: Perhaps this one doesn't bear mentioning, but I for one think it was significant progress that we could all at least agree that Sith are bad dudes, and we should try to stop them from doing bad dude things if we can. I know some are hesitant about large scale conflict, but honestly I'll take our agreement that there is a problem as it establishes our common foe, which is Darkside users dedicated to eclipsing the light.
I really do sympathize with people's frustrations that this thread couldn't do more/be more/get done a lot quicker, but given the limitations we had going in (being from different factions, having different attitudes towards PvP) have not changed honestly this is a good outcome in my book. We may not have chosen a new Grandmaster-in-Chief, but is that what we really wanted? If so, perhaps we should reexamine our approach.
If you want to see tangible results of this initiative, you need look no further than the embassy thread on Coruscul that just started which is even now establishing the background for a cross-factional Jedi location, and is considerably more open to participation than the Jedimoot was.
I don't mean to sound like I want to shut down the conversation, if there are those who believe our efforts have fallen short of their hopes in some way I absolutely think we should discuss ways to keep improving relations and other options, but I think it's important we acknowledge what has been accomplished and the effort put into that from all sides. I am very proud of the way you have all come together despite the skepticism.
