What would be the best light saber form to use for droids?

[Vyse de Valorous]

I have 2 EA-9 Hunters, so I am not sure what saber form would be best for them, and I wonder, is there a form best for droids in general?

Edit: Sorry for not being clear, I mean what form would be best for a droid to use itself, what form would work best if a droid was using it.

Edit: EA-9 Hunters can hold two forms, so your top two picks if you have them.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

the best form is to kill them

ya know, with the sword made of plasma in your hand

why be picky?

just put 'em down

 

[Teynara Jeralyr]

Soresu would normally be your best choice against blaster-wielding droids, but Djem-So is equally effective, particularly if you're using it's Shien variant (the one focusing on using the opponent's own weapons/strengths against them, rather than your own strength against the opponent). The defensive Soresu would enable you to withstand attack and maneuver a droid into a position where they can be taken out, while Djem-So/Shien can be used to effectively take the fight to the droid, negating their own combat capabilities while using your own to obliterate them.

Honestly, though, any and all of the Forms are equally likely to be as effective - the techniques and mindset aren't as relevant as the ability to adapt to the conditions presented by a droid adversary, and that's something any practitioner is capable of. As Sarge says, when in doubt, just drop them. How you do it isn't a particularly big issue.

 

[Vyse de Valorous]

Sorry for not being clear, I mean what form would be best for a droid to use itself, what form would work best if a droid was using it.

[member="Sarge Potteiger"] [member="Tirdarius"]

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Soresu.

You owe me a drink.

 

[Stoic]

I thought droids can do good with any form within their programming...

 

[Darth Ferus]

[member="Lord Vyse Magrath"]

Depends on the situation. No one form is better than another, so it may be best to look at what combat you plan to throw em in.

 

[Vyse de Valorous]

I thought droids can do good with any form within their programming...

I thought some forms relied on force powers, as droids can't use the force, it would not work as well for them.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Lord Vyse Magrath"]
My HRD was trained by Kara in Soresu and Makashi. Those two are good forms to use in most cases, and don't rely on a huge amount of movement, which is harder for droids than Force assisted organics.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Shii-Cho is also a good base form for them to be programmed with.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

I'm fairly certain I already answered this. The correct answer is Soresu.

I'll take "Famous Pirates" for 800, Alex.

 

[Vyse de Valorous]

EA- 9 Hunters can use two forms, what would you say be your next pick then?

[member="Jack Sparrow"]

 

[Nyxie]

Wow, I knew the question before I even read the context. Best form for droids to use.

I would have to say either Makashi or Djem So.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

Shii-Cho does not require the Force, and is based on mundane swordfighting.

Makashi requires only efficiency, not fancy acrobatics or crazy power.

Djem So normally only requires the Force in order to power extremely strong attacks. Droids don't need the Force for that sort of thing.

Soresu, Ataru, Niman, and Juyo all require significant Force attunement in order to be effective, so avoid those.

EDIT: To clarify for those who would argue for Soresu as a good robot form, Jedi do not just have very good reflexes. They read the future during combat and predict where blaster bolts will hit them. Soresu is a high-deflection form, and requires tons of Force sensitivity in order to predict and react to attacks. No matter how good a droid's programming, it cannot see the future.

On the other hand, in retrospect, I'd say that they might be able to use Ataru, if they were extremely specialized explicitly for mobility. A droid would need jump jets, antigrav, and spinning joints in order to use the superhuman acrobatics and rapid spinning that the Force allows Jedi to use.

Soresu, Niman, and Juyo are all too invested in the Force to be used by anything that cannot feel the Force.

 

[Aran Finn]

Shien. That is all.

 

[Break]

[member="Fabula Caromed"] I would contend that soresu would not only be effective in the hands of a droid but I will also contend that a droid could better deflect a shot with a lightsaber than an organic. IRL we have robot arms that can cut a bullet with a katana our bullets travel faster than any in SW cannon and I would suggest that their droids are further advanced than ours. So if the programming were right you could have a soresu proficient droid. (Assuming the programing was right)

 

[Fabula Caromed]

Blaster deflection has nothing to do with speed or reflexes. Those help, sure, but no matter how fast you are, unless you can accelerate your body from a standstill to Mach 1 instantly, you're not going to dodge bullets. The Jedi do not use reflexes or speed to deflect blaster bolts. They use precognition. Constant, low-grade precognition is one of the core Jedi abilities that everyone who finishes their training learns, and it's with that precognition that they know where to put their lightsabers in order to intercept blaster bolts.

Soresu is 100% deflection. Every single part of the form requires precognition. So no, droids will never be able to use it properly, let alone "master it."

-- For serious, post is staying here. I'm tired of moving it. [member="Break"]

EDIT: A discussion over Skype has incited me to make another addendum. Droids should have no problem with Djem So, as mentioned above. However, Shien, the original Form V, would be roughly as impossible for them as Soresu. Shien was originally designed as an offensive variant to Soresu, allowing users to defend against blasters while maintaining offensive presence. Deflection and redirection both require precognition in order to pull off properly. I wouldn't suggest Shien for droids.

 

[Braith Achlys]

I thought some forms relied on force powers, as droids can't use the force, it would not work as well for them.

Makashi and Djem Sho would be the best forms for them to use, if not either of those then I would go with Juyo. As long as the droids are competent, I would go as far as to say a Jar'kai skilled Makashi Droid would be better than most of the others, simply because of its practicality with programming and well-established footwork and movements.

 

[Break]

The problem that I'm saying is the blasters in star wars are slow. I've had to compensate for guns that I've made and make them slower than real life. And the thing is that you can actually predict rather easily when someone is going to shoot and where by simple calculations. So at this moment there might not be a droid that can but there is no reason why it couldn't happen in the future theoretically. All it would need is a processor fast enough and a strong enough sense of sight. And boom artificial precognition

Now is this cost effective? Hell no just give me a an energy shield or some ultrachrome. But I believe that it could be possible.

 

[Braith Achlys]

The problem that I'm saying is the blasters in star wars are slow.

Slow as in comparison to what? A bullet moving at over 800 m/s? Because that is still vastly faster than a synapse can send a signal to the brain and back.

That being said, droids exist that are made for combat between foes using blasters (such as the Magna Guards and the like, as well as HRDs). Not that they'd be able to counter every blow from a blaster as effectively as, say, a Jedi, but they would certainly not be as crippled as one would expect....


When at range... without considering obstacles... or opponents closer by...

So yes, they would be able to counter blasterfire from relatively far enough to be free of other assailants, but more than one assailant and that idea is moot. Add on someone closer by while someone else is firing a blaster and you deal with the inability for the droid to (presumably) compute both actions at once, unless this is a completely new droid or an HRD (in which case you are still likely going to be screwed and at a vast disadvantage).

So possible, yes. Practical in more ways than simply cost? Not so much.