Lupe Baracka
Libertarian Jedi
Who's underrated in all the EU in your opinion? Please explain.
Bastila and Qui-gon are in my opinion.
Bastila and Qui-gon are in my opinion.
I second this greatly.Darron Wraith said:I believe Darron Wraith and Jacen Cavill are pretty underrated seeing as I had to create them and some great novelist didn't.
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I second this...or at least the part about Plo Koon!Listeri Dalane said:Carth Onasi and Jar-Jar. Now, enough joking around, I would have to go with Plo Koon.
Bubba would own that bish thoughBeowoof said:Zam Wesell. The chick's got brains. She was just unfortunate to end up dealing with two of the luckiest Jedi ever. Honestly, her assassination attempt should have succeeded. She almost killed both Jedi protectors, who likely weren't even mentioned to her in the job description. Unlike the seriously overrated Boba Fett who only had to deal with the one Skywalker dude and was taken out by a blind Solo.
Funny how Zam's overlooked. She has more screentime and more lines than the Bubster Fett. And her outfit is just as awesome.
You know that Maul didn't really die there right? lolLupe Baracka said:The only reason he beat Jin was because the movie nerfed him.
Where do I say Maul died? "lol"Aden Dawson said:You know that Maul didn't really die there right? lol
and Actually Bastila and Maul would come really close to a tie.
...Are we ignoring that Maul had taken on, and beaten, other equal-level masters, and Qui-gon had been fighting in Ataru for about fifteen minutes beforehand. That fight would have been the same even if Qui-gon was at his best.Lupe Baracka said:Someone told me today that Darth Maul could beat Bastila...
Now that's not asinine, but totally unlikely. The only reason he beat Jin was because the movie nerfed him.
Zam's assassination plan actually struck me as incredibly stupid. Ignoring the fact that Jango hired another assassin to do his job when he could have done it himself, why is Zam using poisonous insects delivered via droid to kill Padme? She obviously knows where Padme is sleeping, and has a sniper rifle. Just snipe her through the window from a distance - or, if you must use the droid, equip it with a blaster or something.Beowoof said:Zam Wesell. The chick's got brains. She was just unfortunate to end up dealing with two of the luckiest Jedi ever. Honestly, her assassination attempt should have succeeded. She almost killed both Jedi protectors, who likely weren't even mentioned to her in the job description. Unlike the seriously overrated Boba Fett who only had to deal with the one Skywalker dude and was taken out by a blind Solo.
Funny how Zam's overlooked. She has more screentime and more lines than the Bubster Fett. And her outfit is just as awesome.
Sometimes you just need the creds.Ludolf Vaas said:Ignoring the fact that Jango hired another assassin
Silent. Untraceable. Zam firing at the senator would be on thousands of cameras. Not to mention the thousands of people passing by in speeders. Potential witnesses, eh? And it's a senator's suite... Blastproof glass seems mandatory.Ludolf Vaas said:why is Zam using poisonous insects delivered via droid to kill Padme? She obviously knows where Padme is sleeping, and has a sniper rifle. Just snipe her through the window from a distance - or, if you must use the droid, equip it with a blaster or something.
I don't know... Something about changing forms in public sounds creepy weird and I can imagine it drawing attention from the club patrons? Unholstering your gun prematurely might also cause a stir, eh? (And before you say that her armor would naturally draw attention... We're talking Star Wars, which has a lot of crazy fashion. And with its Western themes, shady types like that aren't unusual.)Ludolf Vaas said:Then, she never once makes use of her shapeshifting skills, which is possibly the most advantageous trait an assassin could have. She runs into the cantina and loses the Jedi, but nstead of using the opportunity to shapeshift and escape (the intelligent option), for some reason she tries to kill Obi-Wan, when her mission was only to kill Padme. As if that wasn't bad enough, she didn't even bother to shapeshift before trying to kill him, and she felt the need to sneak up to within like three feet of him, even though she has a long range projectile weapon. Couldn't she have just shot him from across the bar or something? What are you thinking, Zam? How many people have you actually assassinated before this job?
I don't know... Maybe because it's aesthetically pleasing and has a few bells and whistles? It's very sleek and particularly feminine but also practical. I find the blast-skirt to be a nice touch. As for the mask, you have a point. (I suppose she only has a limited amount of forms and can't treat them as disposable, but that's conjecture.)Ludolf Vaas said:Oh, and why is her "outfit" praiseworthy? It's officially retarded as hell. She's a shapeshifter... and yet she wears a mask. Why?!
So you do the job yourself and take all the money, as opposed to having to split the reward with someone? Seems simple enough to me.Beowoof said:Sometimes you just need the creds.
As if her actual plan was any less traceable. Obi-Wan just had to jump out of a window and grab onto the droid. She would have had a better chance of getting away if she had just sniped from a distance, since there would be no droid for Obi-Wan to chase. And how do you know there were thousands of cameras? Where were they when the droid was breaking in? If there were said cameras pointing directly to Padme's room, why would the Jedi not be making use of them? You're making an awful lot of assumptions here. The only one doing any actual surveillance was R2D2. Also, the glass didn't seem bulletproof since the droid was easily able to cut through it to deposit the insects. Again, if you must use the droid, give it a projectile weapon to simply take her out in her sleep in an instant. Even if they catch the droid, at least the job's been done. They even make silencers for weapons, you know. You could even have the droid self-destruct or something to dispose of the evidence.Beowoof said:Silent. Untraceable. Zam firing at the senator would be on thousands of cameras. Not to mention the thousands of people passing by in speeders. Potential witnesses, eh? And it's a senator's suite... Blastproof glass seems mandatory. Also, if we can pair a bullet with a gun today, imagine how Star Wars ballistics tests go.
So run into a bathroom or something and shapeshift there to avoid unwanted attention. I mean why not? The Jedi had completely lost her trail. She could have easily gotten away with this.Beowoof said:I don't know... Something about changing forms in public sounds creepy weird and I can imagine it drawing attention from the club patrons?
Why? Why on earth would she do this?! She had completely shaken the Jedi by that point. Why even bother with them, like at all? All she had to do to make it out... was to literally walk out the door.Beowoof said:Also, maybe she wasn't going to fire? If you're up against two Jedi, holding one hostage might be ideal if you're hoping to make it out.
Fair enough. And I agree, people like Boba Fett for silly reasons too.Beowoof said:I just think her clothing selection is cool, if that's OK with you. Can't say people like Boba Fett for any other reason than a cool set of armor and a jetpack.
I don't know if I necessarily have one. Maybe Tarkin, for the way he basically held Vader by a leash.Beowoof said:Who's your most underrated character?
This. All of my this. She gets name-dropped a lot, but I'd really like to have seen more of her.Anarya Drast said:An'ya Kuro, the Dark Woman.