Suggestion: Code of Conduct

[Tydeus of Tion]

[member="Enigma"], if it's a serious concern then pm those people. If they're still being jerks in PM, then report them.

 

[Onrai]

[member="Rosa Gunn"]

You'd be surprised at how incorrect that is. But as you have rather clearly had an issue with me for some time, I'll move on in conversation.

[member="Ryan Korr"]

There are sometimes where that's less effective than you would expect.

 

[Ludolf Vaas]

I'm not sure if that's appropriate or not. Some of our writers might be from that part of the world or might have a relative in the area. Someone here might even have already lost family to ISIS. *bonks on head*

Oh for fuck's sake.

 

[Allyson Locke]

Like its been stated a lot of these are in the rules themselves and fall along the lines of "common courtesy". Best to speak to each other when Role-playing since its a group effort to do so. We also have the report system to help settle disputes. Its a good idea from time to time to be reminded of these things, I like that it was wonderfully listed out good work [member="Captain Larraq"] .


As a side note, please refrain from jumping all over each other when opinions are posted. Discuss and have fun guys.

 

[Geneviève Lasedri]

Enigma, if it's a serious concern then pm those people. If they're still being jerks in PM, then report them.

Done that before. RPJ was very nice and fairly solved the report--but not the issue.

The person in question is a 'respected' board member and is actively affecting the map in major ways, and has been for quite some time. They go unchecked because no one wants to play someone like that, so there is no willing IC opposition.

I don't think this code of conduct needs to exist and I don't support it. But there could be a little more emphasis on common courtesy and penalties for outright jerk behavior. Like the assaulting comments in this thread.

 

[Tydeus of Tion]

Hail Spencur

[member="Enigma"]

What do you mean?

 

[Anija Betna]

What [member="Captain Larraq"] and [member="Spencer Jacobs"] said...

 

[Rosa Gunn]

 

[Onrai]

[member="Ryan Korr"]

I mean that sometimes a report can't help you solve the problem.

 

[Allyson Locke]

But there could be a little more emphasis on common courtesy and penalties for outright jerk behavior. Like the assaulting comments in this thread.

All my likes.

 

[Tydeus of Tion]

[member="Enigma"]

Ok, but how would a CoC solve the problem?

 

[Captain Larraq]

I get that the 'dont be a dick' rule is common sense. The problem is that 'common sense' really isn't all that common. And there are people out there who really are just jerks and like to get one up on other people. Some people don't even see their behavior that way. They see it as perfectly acceptable. Or they simply don't take other people's feelings into consideration. Not as a lapse of judgement or a slip-up, but because some people honest and truly do-not-care about other people and their feelings. Creating a simple list of rules that can be pointed at will help correct bad behavior before it begins.

That, and the occasional slap on the wrist (or threat of such action) goes a lot farther to keeping people in-line than you would think... And while we already have the report feature, Reports don't quite fit correctly into the category of "hey, this guy is being mean." Reports are for "Hey, this dude broke a rule." At least, that's always how it's come across to me... The proposal here is more than just creating a list of things not to do, it is the proposal of giving staff the means of handing out slaps on the wrist and the occasional grounding without going so far as to give official warnings.

 

[Soeht]

Reports are meant for OOC comments as well. If someone is harassing or textually abusing you on the board, report it. To echo previous Staff announcements, if it's harassment on Skype, block the person.

Though most of what is suggested is just more roleplaying rules rather than a Code of Conduct.

 

[EmKay]

Hands up how many of you have ranted and raved when your playing a console or PC game and you just keep fething dying? All of you. Yes. I am guilty of it too.

[Puts his hand up]

Main cause:

YOU DIED​

​

Those who know what I'm talking about, you know what I'm talking about.

Really though, while it'd be nice to have things stated directly, there are people who'll get squeamish about it and flake out. I feel nervous every time I write violence because I'm afraid of going over-the-top, because PG-13 seems rather relative to individual taste. My 13-year-old years (maybe even younger) were spent playing Assassin's Creed and TES IV: Oblivion. I was fine with the violence, and it didn't bother me -- I even wrote back then (pretty bloody stuff too). Sex was a non-issue, since my mom's answer to that kind of questioning was her Human Sexuality textbook, which is basically Advanced Reproductive Biology in Humans Lessons. It's all very unusual on my part, and so I have a difficult time grasping that kind of thing.

Point being, people will view rules in different ways, and some people will see some rules as basically saying

 

[Onrai]

[member="Ryan Korr"]

By creating proper punishment for people that break UNICK, the level of incidents of Wheaton's Law breakage can be decreased significantly.

 

[Seydon of Arda]

[member="Ryan Korr"]

By creating proper punishment for people that break UNICK, the level of incidents of Wheaton's Law breakage can be decreased significantly.

But how do you interpret or define what constitutes as IC Reaction and OOC Buggery when it comes to 'proper punishment'? How do you cite what's 'proper'?

 

[Allyson Locke]

Why is this full of punishment? Why not instead read and take from it the "hey lets be better at what we do and move on?"


Because in the end, we're all guilty of breaking Wheaton's Law. So lets build a bridge and get over it, move the community into positivism!

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

To the people saying the reports don't do what you want, that's because reports have two sides. You might not get exactly what you want because the RPJ involved might not think you are completely and totally right.

That's not their fault. They're not you, they're trying to find a solution for everyone.

 

[Mantorok]

Everybody demands courtesy but forgets to give it in return.

Common sense is a lost principle on the internet.

 

[Mrrew]

Any minute Tef will show up and tell people that new rules aren't going to be implemented, because the rules proposed already /are/ implemented. Any minute now.

I know that because these 'discussions' tend to go on until that happens.