Choking across the stars

[Zonia Kalranoos]

Here we discuss the beloved art of Force choke. Personally, I've witnessed Force choke only twice on the boards; once it was performed on a NPC as part of mission objective, the second time it was performed on Tionne.
Wookieepedia article mentions two requirements; proximity and/or line of sight. Most of the time it was performed in close range, but on very few ocassions it could be performed over a holovid.

One Sith on this board used Force choke through a wall and succeded, albeit from relatively close by. I was too lazy to complain because people are so obsessed about winning in this place.

Either way, the superintelligent moi devised a time-saving way how to Force choke your enemies; all you have to do is register a false number, holler someone up on holovid by mispresenting yourself as member of their faction and then just simply choke them. If that fails, you can always attempt to choke through several dozen walls from the other side of the street...but hey, why restrict ourselves? Why not sit on a beach on Pantolmin and choke [member="Coren Starchaser"] somewhere in the Outer Rim?

We have found the Holy Grail of Force powers. Quickly, to the choke-mobile!

 

[Laira Darkhold]

This isn't what I thought the thread would be about.

That said, Who uses their Comm's to call anymore? You may have aged yourself

Didn't people let unknown numbers go to Voice Mail?

Force Chokexting. Its the new thing.

*Comm Buzzes* "Oh, a text?" *Opens*

*Clutches throat and falls gasping for breath*

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

Didn't Vader already prove this

 

[Gren Reaper]

This isn't what I thought the thread would be about.

Same. I thought it was a cigarette advertisement.

 

[Jsc]

Solid 3/10

 

[Ashin Varanin]

The Wookieepedia article has a picture of someone Force choking a target behind their back. It's no different than Luke lifting rocks with his eyes closed. If someone did it through a wall, that's totally fine so far as canon goes. The rest of this is reductio ad absurdum.

 

[Zonia Kalranoos]

[member="Ashin Varanin"] You need line of sight, which means you need to see the target. The target does not need to see you.
When a wall is between you and the target, there is no line of sight, which violates the requirement.

If Force choke without line of sight was possible, you could Force choke across great distances without visual contact. Then you would not even need to spend a dime on a call.

The Jedi-Sith war would then just constitute a lot of remote gargling.

 

[Aithne Charr]

Found It!

https://youtu.be/T-NvFIK_beQ?t=1m39s

 

[Setzi Lunelle]

One Sith on this board used Force choke through a wall and succeded, albeit from relatively close by. I was too lazy to complain because people are so obsessed about winning in this place.

Hi there! That was me - I did the choking in question, and before this becomes #chokegate, some clarifications about the RP. Darth Azurea is adept in Force Sight, which also according to Wookie states enhances "the bearer's visual and spatial perception even in the dark or behind walls." She used Force Sight to locate the NPC and then choked him, also taking a brutal lightning attack herself from an NPC Jedi.

Before Azurea killed the NPC, I asked permission from the Galactic Alliance whether it was okay to kill him, yes or no, and completely left it up to their discretion. The mission owner said "yes" and away I went to slaughter. There wasn't any winning or losing as this was a story-focused dominion.

Does it make for a good debate? Sure, but playing up this particular instance as something egregious is a little off-base in my opinion.

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

 

[Darth Metus]

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

If you don't like it, report it.

Then someone wearing an RPJ badge will tell you exactly what [member="Ashin Varanin"] did.

 

[Ashin Varanin]

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

The article you linked shows Dooku choking a woman who's standing behind him. There's just plain no absolute line of sight requirement. Choking someone at interstellar distances is impossible. The guy Vader choked on video was in the same fleet, not light-years away. Line of sight doesn't give carte blanche any more than it's absolutely necessary. That's the case in every source worth the look.

 

[Setzi Lunelle]

But 10/10 for good thread title.

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

Choking someone at interstellar distances is impossible. The guy Vader choked on video was in the same fleet, not light-years away.

Unless I'm mistaken, Baras actually does that in TOR in the Sith Warrior playthrough. Chokes an Imperial officer who's on Hoth, while having a holochat and being light years away. Which admittedly is quite...absurd, but yeah.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

My defensiveness and passive aggression senses are tingling....

Or it could be the weather.

The thought of Force-choking through the holonet is strangely amusing though. It'd certainly make Space-Skype more hazardous.

 

[Krux Mullarus]

I have actually been teaching an acolyte to use 'Force Grip' in a training thread recently. From the way I described it, "Force Choke" is just a way to use Grip. Force Grip, as I explained it in that particular thread:

"I take it you know the basic telekinesis? Force Grip is similar to that, only instead of just moving objects with your mind, you're manipulating matter with a massive, invisible hand. You can pick things up, throw things, or, Grip's most renowned use..."
Mullarus gripped a piece of the crumpled pillar high into the air and closed his fist, crushing it."To crush."
With that, he turned to the acolyte once again, "Do not be as ignorant as most non-force-users who call it 'Force Choke'. Choking is merely a popular use of Force Grip. It's only a fraction of what you could do with it.

Maybe i'm just adding my twist to it, but that's sorta how I always saw it.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

As with most Force Powers, don't be stupid, don't be a jerk.

Ashin is right, but also don't be crazy.

*Spams Choke Text Emojis at everyone* MWAHAHAHA

 

[Zonia Kalranoos]

Unless I'm mistaken, Baras actually does that in TOR in the Sith Warrior playthrough. Chokes an Imperial officer who's on Hoth, while having a holochat and being light years away. Which admittedly is quite...absurd, but yeah.

YES! And he is not the only one. Beniko and Krovos could do this as well.

[member="Darth Azurea"] This means you can use any offensive Force powers through walls too then? If you can see like a Miraluka, which allows you to visually identify a target through a wall, then you can use a mindtrick through a wall, a Sith Illusion through a wall or any other Force power...through a wall.
Because if you can...well...that's neat. And I am not being sarcastic. For once.

 

[Setzi Lunelle]

Wookieepedia says the Miraluka rely on this power to compensate for their physical blindness - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_Sight

Truthfully, it's one of those powers, Azurea picked up along her training that I thought she would *never* use, but through the course of RPing, it's come in handy.

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

 

[Ashin Varanin]

So there's SWTOR canon permitting interstellar choking? Good to know.

 

[Zonia Kalranoos]

[member="Darth Azurea"] Yep, I am familiar with the Force power. I've just never seen someone use it in canon to cast Force powers through a wall. Granted, Dooku chokes from behind his back, which then means you do not need visual contact for this particular Force power. But there is still nothing but air between him and the person whom he is choking. Azurea choked someone through a blast wall and across some distance. The Force power passed through solid matter like it wasn't there. Does this mean other offensive powers can be cast through solid matter, if you can see like a Miraluka?

I am just using this as an example, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed our RP. That particular instance confused me.

Also, if Force powers can pass through walls, why do we frown on FUs passing through walls?