Breaking the Unions (ACA Invasion of Rebel Geonosis OOC)

[Lief]

[member="DasGeneral"]

[member="Ayden Cater"] is well within his right to continue as he is. The Fleet he is using is entirely valid, especially given the permission he has to utilize it.

Ignoring player's posts - especially in an invasion of all things - is very bad sportsmanship.

If you have a serious, legitimate issue here, then feel free to PM Ayden and talk it out like adults. You don't need to air your disdain publicly and cause disruption to an already difficult invasion thread.

Also, lowering your tone might add to how receptive people are to what you are saying. Right now you are coming across as very rude and borderline harassive.

I'll be keeping a watch on this thread, and expect the level of OOC conflicts to lower significantly. This is a warning to all of you.

 

[Raziel]

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I'll be keeping a watch on this thread, and expect the level of OOC conflicts to lower significantly. This is a warning to all of you.

Understood.

I'd like everyone in the ACA to keep things friendly, and if you can't even manage that civil. Bring your issues to a FA if you can't keep a cool head. I'd rather not bother RPJ's if we can settle things like grown up and enjoy our writing.

 

[Wan Min Brightsky]

[member="DasGeneral"]

Please don't levy threats like this at me. I do not appreciate it.

How is this levying a threat? This is a justified request for in character explanation of access to ships that your character did not have as they were not an OP member at the time of this invasion. Your character's history with Omega Protectorate as a rogue means, quite honestly, that unless we have IC discussions of why it is you have access to faction fleets when you were not a participating member of OP until this point, I want official mod review. As CiC RA fleet, I'm asking for this and for OP's faction head to step in and provide evidence.

If you want to take an ally spot, please post your IC justification here! (Allies to be decided by respective Faction Admins)

Can I ask people to please add a little bit on the justification for their character joining the invasion as an ally please?

I'll be confirming the ally slots slowly, rather than on a first come, first served basis (So don't think you've been ignored if I haven't added you yet)

We're keeping the spots limited deliberately, but don't forget if your character is particularly aligned to either faction they can always join up!

On top of that, you gave literally 0 explanation for why you joined this invasion thread. No explanation as Raz requested.

 

[Mariya Pyne]

[member="Ayden Cater"] & Omega Protectorate:

I am just going to make mention here that the OP alliance with the Republic will need to be reconsidered concluding the events of this war. By taking up your fleet against an ally of the Republic this is a severe conflict of interest.

 

[Wan Min Brightsky]

[member="DasGeneral"]

[member="Ayden Cater"] is well within his right to continue as he is. The Fleet he is using is entirely valid, especially given the permission he has to utilize it.

Ignoring player's posts - especially in an invasion of all things - is very bad sportsmanship.

If you have a serious, legitimate issue here, then feel free to PM Ayden and talk it out like adults. You don't need to air your disdain publicly and cause disruption to an already difficult invasion thread.

Also, lowering your tone might add to how receptive people are to what you are saying. Right now you are coming across as very rude and borderline harassive.

I'll be keeping a watch on this thread, and expect the level of OOC conflicts to lower significantly. This is a warning to all of you.

Jyn, I am sorry for continuing this in public. But, as far as I understand it, his permission was OOC in a Skype chat, not official In Character permission as part of an RP where his character resolved their issues with the Omega Protectorate. Our usage of the Republic ships was posted in character before the beginning of the invasion thread. His was OOC. Ergo, I am requesting IC justification beforehand or official review of his usage of this fleet from the Omega Protectorate. This is not harassment, it is a simple request for IC explanation before we continue any further.

 

[Arage Bao]

[member="DasGeneral"]

[member="DasGeneral"]

Please point to me to a written rule where it is stated that you need to do a thread ICly as proof of permission.

 

[Lief]

[member="DasGeneral"]

90% of things done like this are first gained permission for OOC.

There is no rule anywhere stating it has to be IC. Therefore, by default, it is entirely valid.

I want this sorted out, I want the petty squabbling over a game we all participate in for enjoyment to end, because if it's giving someone who isn't even participating a headache, then heaven knows what it's doing to the rest of you all.

No one is making you participate in an invasion.

 

[Chiasa Kritivaas]

Understood.

I'd like everyone in the ACA to keep things friendly, and if you can't even manage that civil. Bring your issues to a FA if you can't keep a cool head. I'd rather not bother RPJ's if we can settle things like grown up and enjoy our writing.

ACA has been awesome, accommodating and fair. A+, would fight IC with again <3

 

[Chiasa Kritivaas]

[member="DasGeneral"]

No one is making you participate in an invasion.

..except that rule that says Invasions cannot be refused so they'd have to take the loss of their planet..

 

[Coryth Elaris]

[member="Kayleigh Tyven"]

If this is what OP's Lord Protector does, behind his Exarch's back. Then I personally will be reconsidering my position within the faction, since apparently it's cool to affiliate with traitors. I made it very clear I would not be doing so. Ever.

So by all means, review the alliance, it clearly means very little to some people.

 

[Lief]

[member="Chiasa Kritivaas"]

I meant her specifically.

 

[Sirella Valkner]

..except that rule that says Invasions cannot be refused so they'd have to take the loss of their planet..

Depends on how you define you.... in a collective or singular form.

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="Kayleigh Tyven"]

You're assuming that my appearance here is officially sanctioned by the Protectorate. There's a lot going on that I'm not just about to spill openly.

I'd look into the matter and approach OP ICly about the matter and see where that goes.

In that same vein, I'm sure the Protectorate would be interested in hearing how some terrorists got ahold of Republic hardware.

 

[Mariya Pyne]

[member="Ayden Cater"] - Your actions represent the Omega Protectorate. Simply because you claim non-affiliation has zero bearing. Even if you stole the ships, it means the OP has severe lack of oversight and as such requires review regardless.

Your ships are marked with OP insignia, you are OP. It's very simple. Actions have consequences. Simply because you or the OP failed to recognize them does not mean they are not there.

The Rebel Alliance is an open ally of the Republic. That's how they got hold of it. In fact, feel free to read that thread.

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="Kayleigh Tyven"]

False, actually.

If you read my most recent post, you'd notice that where the ships would normally fly the Protectorate emblem, they have an entirely different one.

And I'm aware of the existence of that thread. It's not a matter of how the Republic views their allies, but the rest of the galaxy.

 

[Mariya Pyne]

[member="Ayden Cater"] The rest of the galaxy viewing our allies is of zero concern to the Republic. Should we care that the Sith view us poorly? I think not. We've allied the Mandalorians as well, surely they have their own reputations as well, do we care? Not really. It's a non-factor argument that I am wondering the point of being raised to begin with.

Even if you changed the emblems on the ships...They are still Omega Protectorate warships. Please, please explain to me how ships manufactured for the OP wound up elsewhere? I would love to hear this story. I am truly, very intrigued.

 

[Lief]

[member="Kayleigh Tyven"]

Cease the passive aggressiveness and take this to PM. You're arguing semantics, it doesn't help the invasion at all by being addressed in this here thread.

 

[Wan Min Brightsky]

[member="Kayleigh Tyven"]

You're assuming that my appearance here is officially sanctioned by the Protectorate. There's a lot going on that I'm not just about to spill openly.

I'd look into the matter and approach OP ICly about the matter and see where that goes.

In that same vein, I'm sure the Protectorate would be interested in hearing how some terrorists got ahold of Republic hardware.

If its not Protectorate sanctioned, then how did you get those ships? Flying a false flag does not equate to removal of authority.

 

[Mariya Pyne]

[member="Jyn Sol"]

Jyn this isn't passive aggressive...It's legitimate discussion regarding the actions of the Omega Protectorate...And it is extremely relevant to the discussion here as it involves the use of OP ships flying for the ACA against a Republic ally during an invasion of a Republic ally's planet. There's nothing about the discussion that isn't relevant. I'm confused as to why this should be moved to PM when it directly involves four factions and this invasion.

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="Kayleigh Tyven"]

For starters, IC matters need to be handled ICly and OOC matters need to be handled OOCly.

You do not know, ICly, -anything- about what is happening on Geonosis right now, except that -maybe- there's an attack going on. Why don't you get that information and talk with the Protectorate leadership ICly, rather than trying to drag it all out OOCly?