Suggestion Should we have “Core Values” for Chaos?

[Aether Verd]

I was working the nightshift for 12 hours per shift when my brain suddenly reactivated for 30 seconds…

Every decent company I’ve ever worked for has had three or four “core values” to help unite their staff towards a common goal. Things like “integrity” “accountability” “teamwork” yadeeyada…

If Chaos had core value/mission slogan (not saying it needs one) what would those values be?

The only slogan that matters is: #TyrannyReigns

 

[Allyson Locke]

The only slogan that matters is: #TyrannyReigns

yes.

 

[Judah Dashiell]

The only slogan that matters is: #TyrannyReigns

I see you work in Human Resources

 

[Bido Roz’lyn]

Getting back on track regarding core values. Core values and mission statements work for people and corporations. Not really a community of people who come together to write stories. As others have echoed, I don't want to be reminded of HR slogans while I'm on chaos. I would ask what you would expect to gain by having them?

I wasn't really holding my breath on the matter. I proposed the matter to a staff member last week as a tool to help insulate from "toxicity" and their reaction was pretty much the same as the general sentiments of this thread here. But then they suggested adding the topic to the board to see what people thought on the matter anyways for the heck of it.

I'm mostly just following up here.

 

[Briana Sal-Soren]

I wasn't really holding my breath on the matter. I proposed the matter to a staff member last week as a tool to help insulate from "toxicity" and their reaction was pretty much the same as the general sentiments of this thread here. But then they suggested adding the topic to the board to see what people thought on the matter anyways for the heck of it.

I'm mostly just following up here.

I think it's a great thing to want to improve morale and reduce some of the toxicity that happens on the site, but I am not sure the way to do that is through a motto, per-se. Because honestly, the rules we have could probably be listed as Chaos' 'core values' already, and some have a difficult time just observing those.

I think the best way to improve the environment is for people to avoid feeding into negativity where they can, and to actively promote the kind of writing space they want to see and to remember to go out and experience the world/life when the line between ooc feelings and ic interactions, starts to blur. Also, if someone repeatedly makes themselves difficult or unpleasant to write with, people tend to disengage from them naturally - or at least they should. At that point, it's on the individual to either reflect and adjust, or continue as they are. If they don't change/can't manage it, then they might find themselves without a lot of viable writing partners and leave on their own.

 

[Aselia Verd]

I wasn't really holding my breath on the matter. I proposed the matter to a staff member last week as a tool to help insulate from "toxicity" and their reaction was pretty much the same as the general sentiments of this thread here. But then they suggested adding the topic to the board to see what people thought on the matter anyways for the heck of it.

I'm mostly just following up here.

Wanting to improve things is good, and while chaos has had bouts of toxicity for certain. The community does a good job of policing itself, with the admins only needing to step in for egregious things. All that to say, keep thinking of ways to improve things, no harm in that at all.

 

[Balun Dashiell]

I generally go by "Treat others how you wish to be treated". It's an old one, but it still checks out.

Sure enough, we're all human and have our faults, our times when we slip up, but it's not difficult to read the rules and get the gist of what kind of behaviours are unacceptable.

 

[Daxin Veyr]

Okay which graduate just entered the work force and think corporate values have... Value.

 

[Srina Talon]

I was told earlier this year that I could not join a faction. They sent a polite message to me in DMs about it after I expressed interest in joining. They even removed me from their Discord server. People have every right to do this, of course. It's their space. But the least they could do is given a proper explanation as for why.

I feel like "we don't like you" isn't a good enough reason to stop someone from roleplaying in a faction and with their members. If you have a good enough reason then say it and that way both sides can move on. At the end of the day I wouldn't want to write with a group of people if they didn't want me around either so the situation would resolve itself.

The "we don't owe you an explanation" thing is very childish as well.

I'm all for inclusivity, however, this is a rather narrow-minded and self-serving take on what boils down to policing our ability to freely choose whom we interact with.

- No one is "owed" an explanation as to why an individual or a group doesn't want to interact with them. A polite DM stating you are unwelcome is the BEST CASE scenario. Offering up an "explanation" opens the floor for an argument and it's clear most people don't want the drama.

- Just because you (the royal you not the you specifically) are ready to be forgiven does not mean the community is ready to forgive and interact with you.

- If a faction doesn't want to interact with you? Self reflection is your best option. Show the community you're doing better by actually DOING BETTER and not giving lip service.

Core Value Suggestion: Eliminate saying "it's all IC bro" to excuse maladaptive and harmful behavior. It's the one phrase that cheeses me off because it's never used in a positive way.

 

[Kahlil Noble]

Core Value Suggestion: Eliminate saying "it's all IC bro" to excuse maladaptive and harmful behavior. It's the one phrase that cheeses me off because it's never used in a positive way.

This tho. "It's what my character would do" is fun and all until you take a step back from the table and realize it's cutting someone else from the game. I've had it happen a couple times in DnD, where one character is very moral and honest so the others decide to cut them out of knowing a secret about a lie they're going to use.

Which would be fine, but they went so far as to send the moral character away and cut them from the RP entirely rather than include them in the game because 'that's what my character would do.'

If your character would do something that cuts someone else out, I think the more fun option is to figure out why they wouldn't. If you can't think of why they wouldn't or a scenario that wouldn't influence it, carry on.


I went on a ramble that had nothing to do with the 'It's IC bro' toxicity I remember from some of the salt wars years back. Def gotta stop that stuff.

 

[Hasuras Na-Gerra]

If your character would do something that cuts someone else out, I think the more fun option is to figure out why they wouldn't. If you can't think of why they wouldn't or a scenario that wouldn't influence it, carry on.

100% agree

Also core values are silly marketing inventions that don’t mean anything.

 

[Tamsin Starfall]

On the topic of Core values for a board like Chaos. I think their are a few most boards I have been on follow not just Chaos. Though they are not just meaningless fluff like corporations "claim" are their core values.

1. Understanding - In the sense we all have real lives and that takes priority. Most people respect this and accept this RL comes first.

2. Compromise - We are all here to build stories for our characters, factions, and people we surround ourselves with. There is a bit of sacrifice in balancing all of these things, it doesn't mean giving up on who or what you want your character to be, faction, or group it just means you will have to make slight changes here and there you can't have a hard set path. Because it isn't just about your wants.

3. We are only Human - We all make mistakes, we all screw up, and we are not perfect. We grow and we change overtime as do our characters we write. I have personally found overtime grudges fade, hate dissipates, and people move on. It isn't that they forget or even forgive what had happened. They just let go of it, it isn't something that is forced or pressured caused that only stokes the flames that could have died out. We all know we are human and do or say dumb stuff because we are emotional beings. We hold onto things because we are emotional but it all fades in time but we do not control that time either.