Mandalorians

[Writer]

[member="Alyesa Organa"], would you be willing to meet me over an expensive, state-sponsored dinner at the restaurant of your choice and bring me your concerns, ideas for potential resolutions, and an open mind?

Let me consult my security team - and ensure all rum and liquor provided is scanned. *stares*

 

[Kay-Larr]

[member="Jack Sparrow"]

Our thread needs to continue so that the terms can be handed over and the overall meeting discussed

[member="Khyros Sunblade"] [member="Darth Vulkan"]

People are jumping the gun as though nothing is happening with regards to it, but I haven't been given the chance to post it yet and believe me, I've been itching to do so...lol

Also arrests warrants should be laid out for Kol’k Oto and Captain Macer Heln as they are the real culprits.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Okay. So. OOC, everyone take a step back, catch your breath. IC, I promise we're all working to get this resolved. Let's keep the lines of communication open, & be mindful of IC vs. OOC. Thanks!

 

[Jack Sparrow]

[member="Alyesa Organa"], it's an honest call for a Private RP thread. Ponder the pros & cons and let me know if you'd like me to post! That's a lot of P words but not much alliteration. Let me try again.

Ponder postponing prejudicial pre-dispositions, perhaps preferring palavering per peaceful provisions , please?

Bloody hell, I'm amazing.

 

[Writer]

[member="Jack Sparrow"]

I wouldn't see the harm in it.

 

[Mr. OOC]

Just my two bits, but as much as it might seem childish, you generally don't tell a warrior race they're second rate hacks to their face regardless of if its true or not.

Unless you're an Echani and they're a Mandalorian.

Eshan is joining the New Republic, so no need to try and get us to come back, just FYI.

 

[Keira Priest]

For anyone worried about the chances of Keira being the new Supreme Commander, have your concerns addressed here. Trust me, she doesn't want it any more than you do.

[member="Danger Arceneau"]

 

[Kay-Larr]

Planets cannot just leave a faction and join another, especially those gained by dominions. Board rules don't work that way.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member="Ali Hadrix"]

I wrote the Republic long before you were even a whisper on the website, as have a few remaining GR members. Alderaan was a big issue. Alderaan had requested aid numerous times. Alyesa ended up going to [member="Danger Arceneau"], [member="Popo"] and other sources outside of the Republic – to include her own company funding relief efforts while Faith continued to hammer against the Senate. No one even bothered to blink. Again, as I stated – the threads were deleted by former Faction Administrators and Owners. I cannot speak as to why.

Gir Quee should/would know of the requests made.

Lasedri was one of the primary reasons and pushes behind the dissent on Alderaan, Hadrix was just the ignition point.

My reason for OOC mistrust is the inability to accept responsibility for actions. That is the mistrust.

IC Wise, well Alyesa has been screwed over by the Republic numerous times despite all she has done – so you’re pretty much out of luck in that avenue.

Note: It would take a miracle for any Republic member to convince Alyesa to back down from her current position.

That tells me a lot about your viewpoint, thank you for queueing me in. And I can understand your character's disposition as a result of IC events. However, I feel as if your personal disposition is more darkened by past OOC issues than is fair to some of the writers here.
It's not my place to tell you how you should feel, so all I can do is offer you my OOC help and assistance in any and all of your writing endeavors, as long as they are in pursuit of promoting a positive writing environment for all involved.

The Republic of before is not the Republic of now, and while no one can expect you to force alterations to your character(s), I feel we deserve the benefit of the doubt, even if it's only a professional curtesy.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

Planets cannot just leave a faction and join another, especially those gained by dominions. Board rules don't work that way.

That means that we will have to find an amicable IC resolution, as we cannot simply let those planets go.

We can use that opportunity to craft a story out of it, but "letting things play out" doesn't work in this situation.

Eshan and Alderaan will have to remain within the Republic as they belong to the faction, not the individuals who adopted them.

 

[Writer]

Planets cannot just leave a faction and join another, especially those gained by dominions. Board rules don't work that way.

Factions cannot just nullify years worth of RP because they want to stomp their feet, don't like a story and want to throw a general fit.

A planet can do whatever they damned well please to be quite honest. About the same way a character who can deny a death or accusations against them despite their actions. Alderaan expressed desire to leave the Republic, if it chooses to do so through legitimate means - then it happens. If we decide to throw the "Sphere of Influence" government to the edge of the system, we can do so, you're not out of the system - so what does it matter. If you want to stop us - come at me with your Republic fury. I promise you, it will only make your Republic look worse. The Republic, In-Character, has had nothing to do with Alderaan for years on the forums. Two people have dedicated time and effort into the planet to include rebuilding it during the Netherworld event.

That being said - Alyesa is meeting with the Supreme Chancellor, will he change her mind? Only RP will tell. If another government decides to aide the Alderaanian people - then so be it.

Also [member="Ali Hadrix"] and [member="Lady Kay"] - get your facts straight, both of you. We didn't simply adopt this planet. Now, if you wanna keep going this route - we can.

You both need to keep in mind - alot of things were done with this planet long before either of you created your accounts. Have some courtesy and respect for the players who have done their work. Don't assume the rules are just going to auto-protect the Republic and poodoo on history and development.

 

[Eralam]

Point of order:

Ali did agree to stand trial for the events on Roche, on the condition that her character was not charge with war crimes directly, but for issuing the orders that led to a war crime. Something something something negligence. Week of my damn life wasted trying to make that happen.

Anyway.

Y'all really ought to consider getting that going, as it would meet the Mandalorian demands of removing her from command and putting her ass on trial. Saves you the trouble of a war, and lets the Republic get a handle on things on their terms.

As far as Alderaan goes, that ain't my duck to kark, but so long as they're technically still within Republic territory on the map, what does it matter? Let them have the story. Don't make no nevermind unless someone tries to invade, and the OS has some GA shaped problems to deal with.

 

[Kay-Larr]

Yeah. Kay's being screwed over IC by the Republic too (of which she's partly to blame) but she's still loyal to it, no matter what her allies tell her or how hard they try to get her (and me) to leave. But the two of us have a dream of how things should be and we're sticking to it to try to make it happen I know a bunch of writers here wish to achieve the same thing and we can do it when we work together. Communication is working to help stories to progress, so let's keep at it

 

[Eralam]

Well, they've communicated. Maybe it's time to listen.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member=Alyesa Organa]

No one is dumping on your RP, that I can promise you. What you've built on Alderaan is wonderful, and certainly what this site is all about. I may have been new to Chaos, but I've been RP'ing for ten years, and can certainly appreciate everything you've designed. But it was a world adopted by you. Not "simply" of course, through lots of hard work and dedication to an ever-evolving story and character set.

But from that very beginning, the world was part of something larger, an entire faction, of which you, and your characters, are and have been a part. It of course matters if previous Republic leaders treated you, your characters, and your writers poorly, but the faction is bigger than yourself and it's bigger than those individuals. Inclusivity is important, and that's something we're trying to promote.

The site rules are rather clear, and therefore I agree that Alderaan cannot OOCly leave the Republic faction. But that does not mean we cannot all take advantage of an amazing storytelling opportunity, and I do not feel it is insulting in the slightest to say that.

So what can we, as writers in positions of leadership in the Republic faction, do to help mend past transgressions against yourself, your characters, and the stories you have crafted?

[member=Eralam]

That's pretty much what's happening. It'll likely be a trial in absentia, but it'll get done, and by third party, pending the finalization of the Republic IC leadership. I think that's all we're waiting on now.

 

[Kay-Larr]

I'm not telling anyone how to write their stories or anything, geesh. I've had Kay's story since 1999, and things change all the time. I just go with the flow.

I don't like to assume things, but your point of view on me isn't what I've been trying to portray. I don't like arguments, most especially needless ones and I don't like people going after others ic for ooc reasons. That's just petty and bad form. I'm not going to point fingers, but that's what I've seen going on since the end of the year and there's really no need for it. If anyone doesn't like to write with someone, then don't. Plain and simple and effective. No one should be forcing their stories on anyone.

So can we all get back to writing please?

 

[Writer]

[member=Alyesa Organa]

No one is dumping on your RP, that I can promise you. What you've built on Alderaan is wonderful, and certainly what this site is all about. I may have been new to Chaos, but I've been RP'ing for ten years, and can certainly appreciate everything you've designed. But it was a world adopted by you. Not "simply" of course, through lots of hard work and dedication to an ever-evolving story and character set.

But from that very beginning, the world was part of something larger, an entire faction, of which you, and your characters, are and have been a part. It of course matters if previous Republic leaders treated you, your characters, and your writers poorly, but the faction is bigger than yourself and it's bigger than those individuals. Inclusivity is important, and that's something we're trying to promote.

The site rules are rather clear, and therefore I agree that Alderaan cannot OOCly leave the Republic faction. But that does not mean we cannot all take advantage of an amazing storytelling opportunity, and I do not feel it is insulting in the slightest to say that.
So what can we, as writers in positions of leadership in the Republic faction, do to help mend past transgressions against yourself, your characters, and the stories you have crafted?

[member=Eralam]

That's pretty much what's happening. It'll likely be a trial in absentia, but it'll get done, and by third party, pending the finalization of the Republic IC leadership. I think that's all we're waiting on now.

As of this point - I don't take anything personal except for when hard work is being put into question. I know the site rules and understand them very clearly. I'm far from breaking them. By rejecting the Republic and tossing them to the outer sections of the Sphere of Alderaan's influence - you're still the influential government but hold no ground forces or ability to reign terror on Alderaan should something happen. This prevents alot of issues that IC have been happening. If an Invasion occurs, Alderaan will simply have to put up defenses with the Republic having to basically do a micro-jump in system to assist. That simple. Alderaan wants nothing to do with the tyrannical government that the Republic has become. Beyond that - 96% of my issues are in-character. The remaining percentage is for the Republic people to back off a bit, let the story develop and just go with it.

Don't you guys got enough problems to be worrying about what Alderaan is doing? Why all of a sudden is Alderaan an issue when 99.9% of your characters don't even know who Alyesa is? You know Faith, but you don't know the actual character who carried out/gave the order/etc. I mean, it's like your focus is in the wrong place.

It's very irritating.

I've been writing for well over 17 years now. I think I know what I'm doing and what my boundaries are. I, too, also have limitations and tolerance levels.

I'm not telling anyone how to write their stories or anything, geesh. I've had Kay's story since 1999, and things change all the time. I just go with the flow.

I don't like to assume things, but your point of view on me isn't what I've been trying to portray. I don't like arguments, most especially needless ones and I don't like people going after others ic for ooc reasons. That's just petty and bad form. I'm not going to point fingers, but that's what I've seen going on since the end of the year and there's really no need for it. If anyone doesn't like to write with someone, then don't. Plain and simple and effective. No one should be forcing their stories on anyone.

So can we all get back to writing please?

I have never once said I don't care to write with anyone or dislike someone to an extent where I won't write with them. I don't know any of the new people in the Republic to make that determination. I'm actually fairly open and game to write with new people.

You obviously don't know me. :|

 

[Eralam]

If anyone doesn't like to write with someone, then don't. Plain and simple and effective. No one should be forcing their stories on anyone.

Which is exactly what Alderaan has been trying to do. They're tired of the Republic, IC and OOC, and they just kinda want to do their own thing. So far they're amenable to the idea of staying within the Republic sphere of influence on the map, but would it really be any loss if they were to somehow secede? Camaas has been a neutral territory between the OS and GR for ages, and they've been fine. Sure they had a Senator at one point (might still have one, I honestly don't follow the Senate much as politics are boring in my most humble opinion), but they're technically neutral territory on the map. And it's no more hurt the Republic than aided the Sith.

The Alderaanian contingent feels hard done by at the hands of the Republic, and this helps nothing. At this point, if the GR is to have a hope of surviving for the next six months or so, they need a united front. Letting a group of writers who feel that they've been wronged drop out of the general stream of Republic RP can only help. If you try to force them to stay, try to force stories that they don't want regarding the planet that they've worked hard to build over the years, nothing good will come of it. The last thing you want is a bunch of pissed off folks with the key to your backdoor standing ready to pull the plug because they're being backed up against the wall.

The Republic should be more focused on making peace with the Mandalorians (see previous comments about the trial) and expanding their territory northward into what used to be Primeval territory. That's the best hope they have yet for surviving another expansionist turn from the OS.

 

[Kay-Larr]

IC I did let them go, though Kay has no power to do anything except speak her mind.

OOC I'm just stating the forum rules as they are told to me. It's a silly rule, just like the invasion ones and there are other stories going on besides Alderaan and the Mando issue.

Tones cannot be properly expressed and so things get taken out of context. I'm at fault for that too, not afraid to admit it. And that has been happening a lot lately.

Patience is a virtue, even though it can be frustrating and tough at times, especially if it's a story that people are passionate about. We just all need to breathe.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member=Alyesa Organa]

I feel your story designs are plenty agreeable; as I stated before it presents us all with a unique writing opportunity. My foci are properly placed: On continuing Republic story lines within a positive RP environment and helping the faction as a whole grow and flourish.
Ali may not know your character, but the stories involved shape writers as much as they shape IC interactions. Your character does not know Ali and yet you've provided your thoughts on how the Republic should endure the situation. Knowing a character IC should not matter when we're exchanging ideas as people.

As a final thought on the topic, I feel that coordinating at least some aspect of this story with the rest of the Republic would perhaps be a positive step in good faith toward constructing good relations between writers.
"Letting it all play out" does not tell anyone else in the Republic what that might entail. This might include drastic actions being taken against the Royals of Alderaan, or none at all until relations finally erode entire between writers when they didn't have to in the first place. Either way it provides no one involved with anything positive to base later relations off of.
There's also the fact that if we simply go hands off with Alderaan the stories written there might be used to drastically disparage the Republic in the event of an invasion. It would not do well for the Republic to simply allow Mandalorians or others involved to act in Republic territory that could be used against the faction without even an attempt at intervention.

This is just an observation I'm making; if non-communication/non-interaction is what you are insisting on, then it's something I'm certain we'll respect. I for one have no intentions of taking action against Alderaan, nor would I suggest any, either as a writer or a character.