Getting Rid of Canon Companies

[Soliath Devin Talith]

I'm going to pre-face this by saying something simple. This discussion is not to be leaked to anyone. I realize that i can't actually control this and about twenty people will find out about it simply because they can see it, but if i get PM's from regular members over the next few days I am going to relentlessly hunt down the source of this leak and if I find its an FJ, they will be fired and beaten.

Now on to business.

The issue of Canon Companies has once again come up due to recent events. I myself have never particularly cared about Canon Corporations, I owned Blas-Tech but it was never more than a stepping stone to get started. Now, others dislike Canon Companies and Others like them. Either way, they've already caused more problems than they're really worth and I don't see much of a point in keeping them besides the slight trouble that will be caused by the changes Justine and I will be proposing.

So here it is plain and simple, We Remove Canon Companies by renaming them.

The change would be simple, a name change. Every current canon corporation would be required to change their name. This shift would be retro-active, meaning the current Canon company would always have had this name since being used by the PC. This is so no IC reason would have to be given by the company owners. Along with this name change a new rule would also be added preventing any new Canon Corporations from being taken control of. Canon Corporations would essentially be said to not exist due to the Gulag Plague and such.

This is a very vague idea of how it would happen, Justine and I will be mulling things over and deciding on how things will go depending on your guys' input as well as our own thoughts.

 

[Arage Bao]

Canon companies have access to 'legacy' product rosters. Think the TIE for Santhe et cetera, how would that be resolved with such a chance?

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

I'm not generally a factory person, but exactly what kind of problems were cropping up. Consider me curious.

 

[Julius Sedaire]

I honestly don't see any reason for cannon corps to exist except as bragging rights. Why not remove them? Though I never intend to wade in such large waters as the end tiers of companies, so it likely won't change things for me.

 

[Darth Avida]

I'm not wholly against this, I'm a little uncertain how that will play out, though.

 

[Darth Avida]

Canon companies have access to 'legacy' product rosters. Think the TIE for Santhe et cetera, how would that be resolved with such a chance?

This is my only concern, other than backlash

 

[Soliath Devin Talith]

Canon companies have access to 'legacy' product rosters. Think the TIE for Santhe et cetera, how would that be resolved with such a chance?

"Legacy" items would likely be irrelevant. The canon companies would retain all current Assets under their new names, but things like the TIE Fighter are likely no longer actually produced by corporations because they're either outdated or the like. If people say they are, they will likely have to produce the schematics from past RP's and resubmit the technology to the factory. This way they would say they "produce it" and members can still claim to use canon tech as they always have...by finding old variants, hand me downs, etc...

I'm not generally a factory person, but exactly what kind of problems were cropping up. Consider me curious.

Will talk to you on skype.

I honestly don't see any reason for cannon corps to exist except as bragging rights. Why not remove them? Though I never intend to wade in such large waters as the end tiers of companies, so it likely won't change things for me.

I agree with this and thus the changes proposed. Renaming them is simply a method of letting people keep the work they've already done, like with Santhe or KDY.

I'm not wholly against this, I'm a little uncertain how that will play out, though.

It will play out fine as long as it is handled properly by us.

 

[Arage Bao]

"Legacy" items would likely be irrelevant. The canon companies would retain all current Assets under their new names, but things like the TIE Fighter are likely no longer actually produced by corporations because they're either outdated or the like. If people say they are, they will likely have to produce the schematics from past RP's and resubmit the technology to the factory. This way they would say they "produce it" and members can still claim to use canon tech as they always have...by finding old variants, hand me downs, etc...

Okay, I see what you mean. I feel like this will cause backlash from the few people who are writing canon companies and have commited themselves, I am thinking mainly of Sasha Santhe right now. But there might be more.

That being said, I remember when Tef proposed this change he mentioned that people would still be able to name themselves after canon companies, but that they wouldn't be the -real- canon company anymore. Would that be the case here too, or would you want to restrict the usage of inherent canonical names as well?

 

[Soliath Devin Talith]

Okay, I see what you mean. I feel like this will cause backlash from the few people who are writing canon companies and have commited themselves, I am thinking mainly of Sasha Santhe right now. But there might be more

There will always be backlash with every action and rule instated. However, the large majority of people will see the logic in this move and will understand why were doing it.

Would that be the case here too, or would you want to restrict the usage of inherent canonical names as well?

I would restrict the names altogether. I think that would only cause confusion, however i am open to discussion on this point.

 

[Darth Avida]

Perhaps a clear and concise notation on each company sub that tries to use the name that it's a new company, not the previous (defunct) company from canon? I'm sure something like Rendili Stardrives or Koros Spaceworks can work around a simple name change to signify it being a different era of ownership rather than a whole change of name, as I'm sure renaming a company named after the planet (or in some cases vice-versa) isn't exactly necessary entirely.
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[Soliath Devin Talith]

Perhaps a clear and concise notation on each company sub that tries to use the name that it's a new company

This idea will be taken into consideration.

 

[Darth Adekos]

If you want to shut down future canon companies from being created, that's fine. But to force current companies like Santhe, KDY, and CEC to suddenly change their names because it's somehow slightly inconvenient to let them keep it is completely unreasonable. Corporations get refounded. People remember names. Especially in the case of those three who are hugely ingrained into the culture of their respective home planets. You would be harder pressed to explain why no one started up a company with a similar name than you would be to explain why it did.

 

[Soliath Devin Talith]

[member="Gerion Ardik"]

Your point will also be taken into consideration.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

I think logistically this would be a nightmare to force renaming of all the submissions made by canon companies, not to mention changing bios, character names, change the marketplace etc.

It would be jarring to set a demarcation point where everyone would have to start writing a new retconned history.

I feel there's no real need for this.

On the poll I voted option 3 but didn't want to post this in the public thread.