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Disclaimer on the Gen move vs companies.

Bianca said:
Dare tell, how am I treating this wrong?
I think folks should not have such a big issue with stopping and listening a bit.
Right now its like the masses always get their way, and I guess thats what I have to accept here.
Its not right but I will roll with it.
 
Mantic Dorn said:
I think folks should not have such a big issue with stopping and listening a bit.
You aren't asking anyone anything, every portion of what you've been stating in the first 2 pages of this threads were either demands or #DealWithIt's. If you want people to stop and listen, you need to be better with communicating a request without offending them.



Mantic Dorn said:
Right now its like the masses always get their way, and I guess thats what I have to accept here.
Uhm, sure. You can say that. You can also say the reverse is true. It's circumstantial. Right now, yes, the "masses" are getting their way, because they are in the right.



Mantic Dorn said:
Its not right but I will roll with it.
When literally every single reply has been contrary to your opinion, maybe it's time to rethink that opinion.
 
Bianca said:
You aren't asking anyone anything, every portion of what you've been stating in the first 2 pages of this threads were either demands or #DealWithIt's. If you want people to stop and listen, you need to be better with communicating a request without offending them.


Uhm, sure. You can say that. You can also say the reverse is true. It's circumstantial. Right now, yes, the "masses" are getting their way, because they are in the right.


When literally every single reply has been contrary to your opinion, maybe it's time to rethink that opinion.
You are right. I will reconsider.
 

Amarant

Dead Men End All Tales.
I'd like to say a few more things, some in reply to previous things said to me:


First off, I don't want to "punish" people, and I don't think that sentiment is in play for most of us here. That's not what this is about, I don't think that Mantic or Kay have acted in bad faith. Poor judgement, but not bad faith. At this point, it's not about punishment. It's about the fact that IC, people were attacked, and now those people (Danger and a large angry mob happy to rally around her) are planning a response, IC. I get that Gen went off the reservation, but pretending it didn't happen isn't a solution. Working in a way that incorporates the affected parties, on the other hand? That's a neat solution. That's how we turn giant poodoo-filled clusterfeths like this into truly neat opportunities. And I'm doing that as we speak. Hell, I'm making a new character based on Garter's ideas about clones and loyalty chips and Gen's coup ad a few other things. When it's said and done, I'll have a new character with a full backstory written in collaboration with several other plotters on this site, including a trade magnate, a Republic admiral, and former mastermind behind the Omega Protectorate.



Secondly, and this is a hard bit, I think on some level we're repeating Gen's big OOC mistake here. We're not talking to each other. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's a chain of PMs and Skype logs I'mi missing out on where the corporations are getting to talk with Republic leadership. Maybe Republic leadership is asking its memberships about how they feel about all of this. I can't say. But right now, it feels like some folks are making unilateral decisions about what did or didn't happen and expecting to dictate those terms accordingly. The problem is that as much as this site is about writing stories, it's just as much an exercise in collaboration. We have to work together, OOC, to build IC solutions that allow participation. This plot grew a life of it's own, like it or not. At this point, yes, the fast posters and the slow ones will have to collaborate and converse with each other. And yeah, stuff that was submitted first will likely take precedence over other stuff. Early bird gets the narrative worm.


So, now what? We've established that there's a plot, and that it's got it's own life, and that we can't cancel internally within the Republic to the exclusion of other parties without a serious sense of feeling robbed. Frankly, I think the story is going in a neat direction. After Genevieve's attempted take over, a hastily made alliance of corporate leaders has banded together to help the senators in exile take back their sovereign liberty. At what cost? Well, that's an unresolved thread that will be interesting.


Honestly, I like what's happened here on both sides. Heroism, bloodshed, revolution, a new face to the republic, all interesting hooks--and hooks we should be selling to new members (which, given a certain film's success, is going to be a thing in the next couple of months, so yay to that) so that they have an exciting, engaging series of encounters within the Republic plot.


Even more importantly, letting Genevieve's army have survivors and stragglers after the fact creates a nice recurring baddie. The Bando Gora, the roaming slavers, the Hutts--it's honestly easier to plan dominions and events when you have a lasting bogeyman to fight for them. Rebuilding the Republic and fighting the Usurpers is one amazing Reason D'etre for the Republic forces, and the affiliated Jedi, to fight for a future.


I know, the plan went sour when Gen ignored all wisdom and targeted multiple targets several cooler heads advised against attacking. But if we can't erase the vile plot, then we should adapt to it. Seems to be doing wonders for me, given that I haven't been decently active until this week. My activity was dying in November/December, just ask the multiple threads I have neglected.


So, my advice remains. Talk to the various major players affected, and see what you can do to push this plot forward to a satisfying, and brilliant conclusion. Don't be saddened by what went haywire, use that voltage to drum up some energy elsewhere. After all, the worst case scenario is that a few planets get burned.




Sincerely, your favorite ginger in a clown suit,
Theo
 

Miss Blonde

Trying to be straight in a crooked Galaxy
[member="Ayden Cater"]

Well that's fine that you do :)

In development of the clone army/biochips they were programmed to give loyalty to Patricia and Genevieve. I can link all the threads and submissions if you want. But essentially she hasn't given the information about the loyalty chips due to a few reasons.

The first being that she was afraid herself and her family would be targeted to stop the clones by threat of a hostage situation.
The second is that the orders given by her would conflict with Genevieve's should she start giving orders back and would create mass amounts of chaos and disorder across republic space potentially killing millions of clones, civilians, and republic personnel.
The third was you never asked :p

But yes loyalty chips are in place to give command to both Patricia and Gen, she was simply too afraid to use them and wanted to protect her family. You know character traits and what not, but she's come to grips that the right thing to do is to help the corporate alliance. Anything else I can answer for you? :)
 

Miss Blonde

Trying to be straight in a crooked Galaxy
[member="Ayden Cater"]

Also if you're up to it I'd love love love to have a fight between Ayden and Red & Blue in Patricia's office as some sort of security measure. I've been dying to write these droids and them getting trashed by Ayden in an epic fight would be like a dream come true.
 
[member="Patricia Susan Garter"]

Had a headache earlier, so I missed this but if I'm cloaked then there's nothing for motion sensors to pick up. So you wouldn't know that anyone was in the facility.

Edit #1 I also had not posted anything more than first entering the facility. You don't know yet exactly how I plan on getting around yet, or what I plan to actually do while in there. I'd appreciate being given some time to actually do that on my own please.

Edit #2 Also your post assumes that the Rebel ships in orbit are crewed by clones. They are not Republic ships, they're Rebel ships. So they would not be listening to your orders. You're also posting without giving other people a chance to post, which is a kind of rude to them. Everyone whose in the thread should be given time to react to all posts before a new round of posting started. But I guess we're moving the show along now.
 

Miss Blonde

Trying to be straight in a crooked Galaxy
[member="Ayden Cater"]

I'd appreciate it if we took this to a pm if you are going to ask for edits rather than airing this out for people. :)

As for edit 1, Ayden is going inside Spaarti headquarters where there are plenty of doors, while motion apparently won't pick that up cameras seeing doors open randomly in a state of high alert will. So logically I can assume that someone is in the building. I have no idea who they are or where they are going, but I can see that they are at least inside.

Edit 2. When you say Rebel ships, I'm not sure if you mean the rebel alliance or just the terms rebels in general. But if you mean rebel alliance then as an admin of the RA I can assure you that they have nothing to do with this and do not side with Gen. So it would stand to reason that the ships over Cartao would belong to Gen's clone army.

I stand by my post and if you wish to force edits then report it to a RPJ, while I thank you for your participation in this event and the excitement you've brought for it I'm going to ask you in return that you ease off the gas a little, I'm just trying to have whatever fun I can that's left in this.
 

Miss Blonde

Trying to be straight in a crooked Galaxy
[member="Gerion Ardik"]

This thread has been up since the 30th, I joined on the 10th right? If you were looking for a exciting finish then I'm sure you would of done it by now rather than 14 posts over 11 days. So I'm going to level with you here, While I do appreciate your input this is a matter between Ayden and myself. But if you are happy sitting there on your keyboard or phone making snide little comments to me, then hey who am I to stop making you do what makes you happy. But if that's not the case I'm going ask you to please let this be resolved between Ayden and I :)
 
[member="Patricia Susan Garter"]

I think that since Gerion is in the thread, participating in the thread, and in fact made the thread, that he's entitled to his opinion and word. And I don't think it's your place to determine how quickly a thread has to be finished in before you can take control of it.

At any rate, I don't wish to cause a scene. But I do want to inform you, per your own invitation, that I have reported your latest post. I feel like a pause on posting is in order until it's resolved.
 

Miss Blonde

Trying to be straight in a crooked Galaxy
[member="Ayden Cater"]

waiting for a report to be concluded could take days and completely kill off the thread and I'd rather see this resolved. Is there any way we can find a middle ground that way everyone else isn't tied up in this? I can drop the motion sensors for Ayden but the fleet in orbit would be commanded by clones due to the fact that in no previous threads Gen has had rebel support or followers until you made it so.
 

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