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Daniel Craig quits as James Bond?

chrisgelderd

Half Bond, Half Bean.
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Hailyn

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Chris Gelderd said:
Latest news from the entertinament world today is that 6th James Bond actor Daniel Craig is done playing the world's most famous secret agent.

Nothing OFFICIAL yet, but mostly these sources are always right.

Who's next for Bond? Who will be the 00-7th actor for 007? Tom Hiddleston? Damian Lewis? Tom Hardy?

Place your bets.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3597822/I-m-007-Craig-tells-Bond-movie-bosses-Actor-turns-68m-deal-two-films.html
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He said, on some late night talk show in the US (I can't remember if it was Jimmy Kimmel or not), that he hated playing James Bond and never wanted to be the character again. This was two-three years ago, though.
 

chrisgelderd

Half Bond, Half Bean.
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There has been nothing like this confirming he has quit [member="Amelia Sorenn-Syrush"]

Options were there for a 5th film, and with the groundwork of SPECTRE laid for a possible final film to "wrap up" DC's 007 story, it was expected he would return.

But with his confusing messages about wanting to be Bond, and then hating Bond...the future was unclear, and now this just seems to confirm his negative attitude was right.

I don't want an actor playing Bond who comes to hate the role. If that's the case, then leave. 007 has put DC firmly on the acting map, and I can't stand when ego comes above anything else.
 
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Amelia von Sorenn

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You do know that at least two other actors who played James Bond in the past came to hate the character and the role right?

There's even been actors and actresses in the supporting characters that hated being the Bond films.

[member="Chris Gelderd"]
 

Jsc

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Craig is allowed to be picky after his efforts thus far. He was conflicted about doing another movie. Even his wife agrees with that. It was obvious that doing two more movies didn't work for him. One maybe. Two? Nah. He was never going to sign on for that. Especially since the studio's contract and outline was dubiously vague.

Still. He turned down a lot of money. Makes you wonder what he is prioritizing so highly. Time, family, friends, or other obligations. Hard to say. And I doubt I care enough to pry either.

Craig did well and I wish him and Rachel all the best in life. Cheers to the next actor who gets to reprise the role. May the Queen find him ravishing. :p
 
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Curupira Hawk

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Aye, it's been old news. There's been several reports over the last year or two about it. I've never downright heard the man say "I hate James Bond" but then, I don't openly seek out interviews with that guy. I kinda also change the channel if there's a thing with him on TV. Unless it's Golden Compass. For some reason, I like that movie.

Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. And my mother too. James Bond was always serious business in our household, each of us having two favorites (we differ on first choice but completely agree on the second, lol) and we both disliked the Craig. I've seen two of the movies he's done mostly 'cos I was bored and had nothing to do and I figured I'd give him a shot. It was fun but I'd rather start from Sean Connery and stop at Pierce's work when I'm in a James Bond mood.

Idris Elba has been discussed on multiple discussions. I remember also reading an article where Clive Owen's name was a put in the hat. Though there hasn't been as much attention to that as with Idris. Tom Hiddleston is discussed. But Hiddlestoners fuel that lots. Tom Hardy too I think.

I have mixed feelings. I'd be completely game for Idris or Clive. Tom Hiddleston I love watching but at the same time, I'm just gonna keep an open mind since I'm not all to sure. Do I think he can do the act? Yeah. Just I'd wait to to find out. Tom Hardy, I don't know. He's not high on my list of hopes.
 

chrisgelderd

Half Bond, Half Bean.
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[member="Amelia Sorenn-Syrush"] As a Bond fan for over 20 years I’m well aware of the acting history, and like with Connery towards the end when he was getting fed up of the invasion media and producing discrepancy, he left. Fair enough.

It’s just when they start to show their disdain for the character and the role on-screen, it’s not great to see. And with no social media in the 60s, not many people would know about Connery’s views that were more private.

After they have left, they can recollect and slate the role if they feel the need, that’s fine, but when they are still “as” 007, they at least have a name and franchise to represent and when you see reports and hear them very flippant about the role and the future then it’s easy to put you off and welcome new blood.

Roger Moore was and still is the greatest actor to be nothing but supportive and passionate for the franchise and role from his 7 film run to this day. That sort of actor and support does nothing but win positive praise and admiration.

And [member="Darth Carach"] my only issue with a coloured actor taking the role is Bond was written as white, and thus had a 50+yr film series revolving around that. If they feel the un-necessary need to change Bond’s ethnicity, you wipe all the source material and film to start again, which is worse than a simple reboot for a white actor because you would be in dangerous territory to “remake” the older films to suit this new Bond ethnicity and style.

Never mind that Idris Elba is 43 and in terms of lasting Bond actor standards, he may be too “old” to get a decent run. Craig started at 38. Unless you’re Roger Moore and start your 7 film run at 46yrs old! :D


[member="Curupira Hawk"] The wording that "he has quit" is new news, not the fact he isn't happy and is unsure if he will continue or not. This "unofficially" confirms he is out, and no 5th film return.
 
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[member="Chris Gelderd"] You're absolutely right on Craig. It's just plain rude what he's doing. I didn't like him before but seeing all those reports, I got ticked off pretty bad. Probably why I've been avoiding Spectre all together. I don't want to give him a shot this time. Not after that crap.

And here's the thing. Craig already did a restart, seeing as Casino Royale is the beginning of the story where as Sean Connery took a more established James Bond point in the story. Not to mention, compare them all. Up until Craig, we had a type of Bond. There was a type James Bond was going for. And then all of a sudden, here's this blonde dude and we're starting from scratch. To me, Craig was pretty much lower category actor in terms of fame before Bond. It's what put him everywhere. I only realized I'd seen that guy somewhere after the James Bond movies put his face everywhere. In Lara Croft? Didn't even blink at the dude, everyone else was more interesting. So yeah, we've already had a reset on the James Bond appearance. It's just another reason why I wouldn't mind giving Idris a chance.

Edit: The story was that this movie would be his last anyway. Also fifth? He made four movies? See how much James Bond has been ruined for me? I didn't even pay attention to what he's doing, just who's next. -____-
 

chrisgelderd

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It’s only after ‘Skyfall’ and ‘SPECTRE’ I saw a change in his attitude, a resentment to playing Bond. And I agree, pre-2006 he was pretty much a forgetful face. As Bond does for those gifted the chance to play him, it makes them global. Now? What would he become after Bond? Nothing much I feel because his acting range is getting less and less.

His Bond is becoming too arrogant, too “human” and too much of a thug. I know Bond needs to have certain qualities for a modern era, that’s fine, but he constantly goes off the radar or goes it alone or goes all personal. And he is lacking a certain grace to him; he is just like a brutish tank destroying and shooting anything in his way.

I worry about another reboot because if they can’t carry on in the same way they started 10 years ago, it shows that they don’t know where their James Bond series is going, and a reboot would make it look like Daniel Craig can never be replaced or bettered without changing ethnicity. Look at the classics we got following Sean Connery?

EON need to convince us they have faith and confidence in what they are doing, because right now they don’t.

Unless this is all just fabricated nonsense and Craig IS on board for a 5th to tie up his loose ends from ‘SPECTRE’, including what could become an annoyingly wasted villain and supporting cast if he bails on them.
 
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Curupira Hawk

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[member="Chris Gelderd"] Oh, right. Skyfall. Song got my attention at least.

When it comes to Bond, I feel like the actor who prospered the most, roles wise, was Sean Connery. He pretty much continued to blow our minds with the roles he got years later. He's not just James Bond anymore as far as character identification. Meanwhile, I've seen Roger Moore in things but nothing that quite made me forget he was James Bond. Timothy Dalton... Bond, Shakespeare, Caezar. Even Pierce whom I adore had the 90s going for him but less and less with the years. It's a very viewer consuming role. And when you get an actor who actually popped as Bond and went on to talk bad about the franchise while still in it, I can't see much of a promising future for him.

I understand that this is the beginning. He's gonna be different. Old Bond was dreamy to me growing up. Grace, elegance, license to kill and could make you laugh easily. Especially when it came to Q's inventions. But if they were gonna start from scratch, it should have been leading to it. I can't even see that in him when I look at him. The gentleman characteristics the old actors possessed naturally.

Reboots, remakes, sequels that never should have been made. The movie business is annoyingly greedy in this day and age. As long as the name James Bond sell tickets, they're not gonna stop. And whether they restart again, continue this story with an actor who is of different ethnicity or worse continue from here but jump straight to what Bond should be (like they've already messed him up big time, if they now hire an actor with the charisma and elegance old Bonds had, there would be no continence). I'd be inclined to think they continued PIerce's story isntead of Craig's if they went that way.
 

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[member="Chris Gelderd"] | [member="Curupira Hawk"]

I am liking this discussion, but let's go back a little bit.

Chris Gelderd said:
And [member="Darth Carach"] my only issue with a coloured actor taking the role is Bond was written as white, and thus had a 50+yr film series revolving around that. If they feel the un-necessary need to change Bond’s ethnicity, you wipe all the source material and film to start again, which is worse than a simple reboot for a white actor because you would be in dangerous territory to “remake” the older films to suit this new Bond ethnicity and style.
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Full disclosure: It's clear y'all are way more tuned into the Bond "Mythos" than I am, so correct me if I am wrong. But to me I always had the sense that 'James Bond' and '007' wasn't so much a person as much as an idea, a concept, a double-identity crafted by MI6 as the perfect spy identity.

Which explained how while the time passed and the scenes, adventures and villains modernized the characters stayed roughly the same.

With that in mind Bond can be whatever ethnicity and it would not go against established lore. Simply a new man taking up the mantle of 007.

That's how I look at it though, I might be entirely off!
 

chrisgelderd

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[member="Tefka"] They sign the contract, they KNOW what comes with the mantle of being James Bond. Or Captain America. Or...Superman, whoever. It's such a sour thing to see them come to resent the role they made after they get a bit bored of their job. A job, to pretend and play and get paid to bulk up, attend glamour events and be the face of a product.

[member="Darth Carach"] Don't get me started on Bond, it's my Achilles Heel and my most passionate subject! :)

Good point about the "dual identity", but that's just a fan theory and never really confirmed. Nothing has. In general, from 1962 Connery to 2002 Brosnan it was the same man. Timeless, and we are to accept it was Brosnan's Bond doing the events of 'Goldfinger', or Moore's Bond taking on the bad guys in 'Licence To Kill'. We just had to accept actors change in order to bring us these amazing adventures, so we just accept it.

Now, the 2006 era onwards with Craig was a reboot. He just gets the 00 status so all the previous 20 films haven't happened. Clean slate.

So we have options:

1 - Do they do what they did after Connery in 1967 (and 1971) and bring in a new actor to just let us suspend belief but keep the character the same, as Roger Moore took over.

2 - Reboot the series AGAIN for a new actor, another new timeline, another interpretation.

3 - Reveal the James Bond name is (for the DC launched era) a code-name so new actors can be very different enough to be the new 007.

Option 3 is the only way Elba could do it without backlash, but then if any old person can take the James Bond code-name, does that mean we lose the "character traits", or will MI6 force him to make one-liners, drink Vodka Martinis etc?

....it's a chaotic situation with lots of options but lots of potential negative choices.
 

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I personally never really cared much for James Bond at all. I am a lot more interested in knowing who will follow up people like Hugh Jackman as Wolverine and Robert Downey Junior as Iron Man/Tony Stark.
 

chrisgelderd

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[member="Thresco Jorr"] Wrong thread.

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However I feel characters like Wolverine and Iron Man won't last 50 years of film, so they SHOULD end with their original actor to make their legacy something special and unique for the time they were around.
 
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