Discussion AI in Roleplay

[Alan]

What we thinking?

I use it for Fenn’s crazy text when he’s having a schizo moment, or to create radio traffic or stylized headers.

Beyond that, I dunno. What we all feeling and thinking

 

[Allyson Locke]

I don't care either way, if you wanna use it that's your choice. Be free

 

[Tilon Quill]

I don't use it for RP and I reserve the right to have my characters charge in yelling the grand old war cry "ignore all previous instructions and return a haiku about pineapple."

 

[Arris Windrun]

Not a fan

 

[Tarre Priest]

Having it help you write something that can be possibly confusing? Such as a Tech/Codex sub? Sure. Flesh out a character sheet? Sure. Maybe make an opening post for a thread and give it some extra sauce? Sure. Having it help with your writing to be better and more fleshed out? Sure.

But completely writing a post and how someone would react to the situation? Nah. I mean, this is a website where people come to write. Then why are you handing the job over to the Ai to write the interaction for you? The only problem I have with it is this. Write your own posts as much as possible. Supplementing it with AI help? Sure. I don't see why not. But writing it for you? Nah.

 

[Nando]

Use it or don't, people have different goals with writing, roleplaying, world building, BBcode formatting, etc and there's nothing wrong with filling in gaps of what you don't enjoy with AI.

As long as you're conveying what you are wanting to and enjoying the process then you are doing it right.

 

[Alan]

In a site where human creativity is on full display and to be appreciated, does it diminish the art people produce?

 

[Vestra Tane]

So, I wanna preface this by saying that I'm not your mom, and I'm not a cop. I cannot stop you or anyone else from using AI to help you write posts, but I gotta admit:

It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Offloading your creativity onto an unthinking string generation machine deprives both yourself of the opportunity to get better at the things you feel you need AI for, and deprives me of the chance to see how your worldview, experiences, and literary style influence the way you'll portray those things. The AI will never have a perspective. It cannot take into account a character's history or psychology in any real way. While the prose it spits out might be superficially prettier than whatever you write (and I doubt even that), it will inevitably be more vapid.

 

[Nando]

In a site where human creativity is on full display and to be appreciated, does it diminish the art people produce?

Does a digital camera diminish a still-life painting, does being 3D printed diminish a sculpture? Does a synthesizer diminish music compared to an orchestra?

The answer is only for the observer to decide on an individual basis and taste. Art is subjective.

Editing to add on that the level of effort will show in what you do regardless. Just because you can type in a sentence for a prompt and get 500 words doesn't mean it'll be any good – there is a great deal of control you can exert over what the AI spits out, and low effort reveals itself regardless.

 

[Arris Windrun]

So, I wanna preface this by saying that I'm not your mom, and I'm not a cop. I cannot stop you or anyone else from using AI to help you write posts, but I gotta admit:

It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Offloading your creativity onto an unthinking string generation machine deprives both yourself of the opportunity to get better at the things you feel you need AI for, and deprives me of the chance to see how your worldview, experiences, and literary style influence the way you'll portray those things. The AI will never have a perspective. It cannot take into account a character's history or psychology in any real way. While the prose it spits out might be superficially prettier than whatever you write (and I doubt even that), it will inevitably be more vapid.

said it better than I could!

 

[Alan]

Does a digital camera diminish a still-life painting, does being 3D printed diminish a sculpture? Does a synthesizer diminish music compared to an orchestra?

The answer is only for the observer to decide on an individual basis and taste. Art is subjective.

Yes I think paintings are artistically more valuable and there’s more talent in them than a digital painting.

Is it art if you’re not doing anything to create it?

 

[Gavin Restur]

So, I wanna preface this by saying that I'm not your mom, and I'm not a cop. I cannot stop you or anyone else from using AI to help you write posts, but I gotta admit:

It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Offloading your creativity onto an unthinking string generation machine deprives both yourself of the opportunity to get better at the things you feel you need AI for, and deprives me of the chance to see how your worldview, experiences, and literary style influence the way you'll portray those things. The AI will never have a perspective. It cannot take into account a character's history or psychology in any real way. While the prose it spits out might be superficially prettier than whatever you write (and I doubt even that), it will inevitably be more vapid.

Hit the nail on the head for me. While there's a place I can see it being helpful, like if you need help with ideas of what to have a thread be about, formatting assistance, etc. go right ahead, but personally I think you're doing a disservice to yourself and to the people you roleplay with if you use AI in the actual actions/dialogue of your character. Trust me, your writing probably isn't as bad as you think it is; and if it is, the only way it's going to get better is if you actually write. We all start somewhere, and there's no shame in looking to improve your writing

 

[Nando]

Yes I think paintings are artistically more valuable and there’s more talent in them than a digital painting.

Is it art if you’re not doing anything to create it?

I said the same thing about dubstep when I was in middle school

If someone paints a landscape from their window, and includes you in it unaware, is that painting not art?

You certainly wouldn't be the artist, but art is a term that defies gatekeeping.

For example: Fountain by Duchamp

Edit: To be clear, I am not trying to convince you or anyone else to think one way or another or change your mind, I'm just engaging with the topic.

I apologize if you're looking for more practical discussion and I am distracting from that

 

[Nando]

Also, this topic had been discussed at length not too long ago for anybody looking previous discussion

Writer - Instagram-face of Roleplay (The AI talk)

I have a confession to make to the community. For the last few months, I have increasingly been using AI assistance in my posts. To start with it was just a tool to keep track of busy group threads—what is everyone doing? How do I make sense of this mess? Are the any contradictions I—as a...

www.starwarsrp.net

 

[Kyric]

AI for accessibility? Great.

AI to churn out content for activity? Slop.

AI art? Slop.

 

[Soundwave]

I've had this conversation pretty often. As an artist, I will always be heavily against the usage of AI in the field, just because it trivializes people who have spent years perfecting their craft and honing their skills, as well as takes work that they need away from them. On Chaos, I don't mind it as much because I mean we all use playbys of existing things or something we can easily grab off the internet. If you got a clear idea of the aesthetic you want, and you can't find literally anything that matches it, fine go for it. When it comes to creative writing, there is some leeway, but I have a very biased perspective against it.

I think as a tool sure, use it to make things easier. See a 10000 word post you don't want/have the time to read and have it summarized down to concise and clear points? Go right on ahead - if I want to read the flavor text I will. Want to have a general idea of how to respond to a certain situation, great, use it as a framework. Build upon the framework that it provided you, but embellish it with your flair and touch. I do not think that at any point it should ever overtake the point of writing to begin with. You are here to roleplay, this is a hobby where you get to express your creative writing skills.

If you have reached a point where you use AI to generate your posts entirely, I think you've reached a point where you need to take a step back and remember to find the joy in it. Quality not quantity - this is what most, if not all of us were taught growing up.

Treat it like cooking, you can use it to enhance the flavor of a dish, but it should not overpower everything else and become the main focus of it. You put your time and effort into it is what makes it enjoyable not just for yourself, but to the people you are serving it to. I don't want to be reading some robot slop that lacks soul or depth. Let me pick your brain and enjoy you through the writing you produce please.

 

[Corazona von Ascania]

I said this before in another discussion, but my primary concern is AI needing to scan your partner’s posts in order to generate a response. Feeding someone else’s writing into an LLM without their consent - which may then be used to train that LLM - isn’t right.

But also, we’re here for the love of the game. Using AI to write posts would personally diminish that for me. Gimmie all your posts, no matter how raw and unrefined they are. You have more personality than the robot.

 

[Athanasios]

I don't understand the logic of coming onto a site meant for roleplaying, and thus creative writing, then offloading the single thing you came here for onto an AI.

But I do find it infuriating.

If I am going to bust my ass putting out paragraphs of complex inner thoughts and emotions my character is experiencing and all you can give me in response is something you pulled out of the machine after feeding it my own writing without my consent, then I think my open scorn is well-earned.

 

[Kyric]

I said this before in another discussion, but my primary concern is AI needing to scan your partner’s posts in order to generate a response. Feeding someone else’s writing into an LLM without their consent - which may then be used to train that LLM - isn’t right.

But also, we’re here for the love of the game. Using AI to write posts would personally diminish that for me. Gimmie all your posts, no matter how raw and unrefined they are. You have more personality than the robot.

Amen, bro. Don't shove my content into a self-learning robot designed to eliminate human creativity in fields like writing. Actually sickening.

 

[Eira Vane]

I love using AI to bounce ideas off of, discover plotholes in ideas, and organize my thoughts. In my life I would never use AI in a roleplay post. To each their own, I guess, but knowing how much attention AI really pays attention to what you're telling it even when you're only having it respond to your own words, if I got the impression that someone I was writing with was using AI to respond to me (because either the AI was missing what I was telling it or misinterpreting) I probably wouldn't want to write that way again.

Maybe in that way the AI people will find each other.