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X Things the Factory Judges Want You to Know

Rusty

Purveyor of Fine Weaponry
So this started off as a joke in Discord, and since I'm doing absolutely nothing at work tonight, I figured what the hell, might as well write up a slightly more PC version. This is a rough draft, and the exact number of Things is subject to change, so we can settle on the actual title if it ever sees the light of day.

1: We're here to help.
Being a Factory Judge comes with no special powers or privileges. We don't get to boss people around, we dont get paid, and we sure as hell don't get special consideration for our own submissions. If anything, we're harder on each other, because we are expected to conform to a higher standard. And yet, we devote our time and energy to approving submissions, time and energy we could be spending on our own writing. Why? Because we want to help. Each one of us is here because we like helping others realize their ideas. We like knowing that we're contributing to the site in a meaningful way. And we like it when Cira breaks out the whip.

2: We're only human.
Despite what we like to think, we're only human. We have lives outside of Chaos. We get tired, we get cranky. We make mistakes. It's for this reason that we ask you to be patient with us. Though we strive to reply to subs within 24 hours, that's not always possible. Nonetheless, we get to them as quick as we can. We've been known to overlook or misread things from time to time. If you think we made a mistake with your submission, by all means, let us know. However, we ask that you do so politely. Copping an attitude is a great way to sour the judge's mood, and though we strive to remain professional, we are not infallible.

3: Discussion is fine. Arguments are not.
As mentioned above, we make mistakes. We also make decisions that, from your point of view, might look like a mistake. If you don't agree with something that's said, you're more than welcome to point it out. We welcome discussions, and encourage them. However, we don't welcome arguments. What's the difference? Tone, mostly. If you come across like you're trying to learn those stupid FJs a thing or two, we're going to shut you down. Hard. It's nothing personal, but there's a line we have to maintain, and if it's crossed, we don't have a choice. The Factory only works if everyone respects everyone else, and we can't afford to put that at risk. So, discuss, don't argue. There's no guarantee we'll agree, but you'll do a lot better if you keep your cool.

4: We don't work alone.
Every submission is reviewed by a minimum of two people. This isn't just to make the Factory RPJs and admin feel important. As stated above, we're only human, and we occasionally slip up. The RPJs and Admin are there to catch anything we let slip. On top of that, it's rare that a judgment is the result of only a single FJ. Simple stuff usually doesn't require an extra set of eyes, but if a judge feels there's even a slight chance they might be out of their depth, they ask for help.

5: There's a lot of knowledge in here.
This one directly relates to number 4. Most FJs are chosen for one of two reasons: they either have a good working knowledge of Star Wars tech and lore, or they're really, really knowledgeable about certain vital topics. We've got a wide variety of useful skills tucked away behind the fancy purple names, everything from IRL gun nuts to swordsmen and women to an honest to god physicist. If one of us asks for help, chances are there's a subject matter expert on hand who can lend a hand. So the next time you find yourself griping about how those stupid FJs butchered your sub, bear in mind that there's a pretty good chance someone could pull out charts and graphs to explain our decision, or went out in the backyard with a box of ammo to figure out what would really happen.

6: If you can't beat us, join us.
We're always looking for help. Though at times it might seem like there's more FJs than there are people making submissions, the Factory Admin are always taking applications. If there's something that you think you know more about than us, by all means, drop an application and see what happens. Don't worry too much about whether or not you've locked horns with judges in the past. We've got plenty of FJs who started out that way, and we'll probably have plenty more before all is said and done. So long as you know your stuff and can work as part of a team, there's a chance.

7: There is no faction bias.
After the first month or so on the job, you tend to hate all factions equally. Joking aside, we have a strict policy in regards to handling submissions from your own factions. Simply put: don't. There are plenty enough FJs that we can spread the load around.
 
7. There is no faction bias. By the time you are a month into your FJ role you hate everyone and everything equally.


(Except Force Dead...Don't get me started on that...)
 
[member="Rusty"]
If you're involved in the submission you don't judge it, and if you feel you're not able to separate your interests from your objective role as a judge you don't pick up the sub, otherwise there is no rule about it. Back when you were first made a factory judge it was a policy that judges not pick up things from your own faction until the factory admin felt it was fine.

This stance lessened when the OS and GR disappeared.
 

Rusty

Purveyor of Fine Weaponry
That might be where I remember it from then. They were still at it the last time I was a judge. Well, the wording can be changed, though for the record, that's one rule I think needs to go back on the books. Not that I don't trust you guys, but perception is more powerful than reality, and if folks think we're being screwy, all the assurances in the world won't help.

[member="Irina Volkov"]
 
  1. We're actually not the devil.
    Factory judges are not out to get you. We're not trying to bully you, we're not trying to arbitrarily enforce things on you; we actually want to help you get your submission approved. When a judge asks you to do something, there's a legitimate reason for it.
  2. We don't do precedent.
    How a previously made factory sub got approved does not reflect on how submissions get judged now. If a judge asks you for edits that you haven't been asked for before, they're not making it up to be nitpicky - chances are this is a rule that's been neglected and is now being enforced, or the previous judge simply missed it.
  3. Seriously, we're not going rogue.
    A great deal of the time, the judgement provided in a sub was discussed amongst various judges and factory staff members to ensure that it's fair judgement. It's insulting when members suggest that we're providing judgement on a whim, but it's also inaccurate.
  4. Think before you sub.
    Submissions with ludicrous powers, submissions with no apparent purpose, submissions that break board rules; all of these make our jobs more difficult. We want to help you get your sub approved, but when we're judging armor that makes you breathe fire or a transporter from Star Trek, that becomes much harder.
  5. Disagree with us without breaking Wheaton's Law.
    Despite common belief, we're actual people. When we do our best to deliver fair judgement and the submitter responds by being snarky or passive-aggressive, it annoys us. If you don't get why a judge is asking you to make an edit, ask them politely and they'll be happy to explain it to you.
  6. The tears of the membership are not actual payment.
    Factory judges are volunteers. We don't get paid. We judge submissions in between sustaining real lives (and actually roleplaying). So when we take a little longer to judge your subs, please don't get cranky.
  7. If you're upset with a judgement: Do. Not. Trash. Judges.
    If you don't know why you're being asked to do something, ask the judge or request a second chance. Complaining about it in discord chats, status updates or OOC threads is in poor taste.
  8. Submissions need balance.
    Factory 4.0 is about balance; the strengths and weaknesses of a submission are what we look at most closely. Catch-all armor/weapons will not pass. Subs with no legitimate weaknesses will not pass.
  9. Factory judges are all-seeing.
    Trying to hide or disguise strengths is in poor taste. Don't link twenty pieces of technology and not describe what they do. Don't describe the submission's powers in the description and leave them out of the strengths. Don't use word gymnastics to make your strengths look like weaknesses. It makes our jobs harder, but it also leaves you liable to get reported if the submission is seemingly abused.
  10. We don't make the rules. We just make you follow them.
    If you think that a rule is needless or unhelpful, suggest an alternative in the suggestions forum. Taking up issue with your judge because you object to a rule they're asking you to follow is useless and will more likely get your sub denied than result in a rule change.
  11. You can always second chance a submission.
 

Netherworld

Well-Known Member
I like both of those, good work [member="Rusty"] and [member="Aria Vale"].

Also I'm with Rust on the faction thing – it's about perception. If a judge is also a member of faction X and judges a lot of faction X subs, it ends up looking bad whichever way you spin it. Even if it's imagined, we don't want to present the Factory as nepotistic. In 99% of the cases, there will always be a different judge available to take that sub. It's as simple as that. Obviously if there's nobody else or that particular judge is the one expert on the topic, sure, it happens.

In general though, I think it's a situation best avoided.
 
Added another.

On the subject of bias: I've always been told to and have been picking up subs in order of when they were posted (within a specific forum, at least) rather than picking and choosing, and judging them in that order. I always thought that was the rule we had, but if not I still think it works well enough to avoid perceptions of bias.

That said, just avoiding judging subs from factions you're in is a reasonable policy too.

[member="Netherworld"] // [member="Rusty"] // [member="Irina Volkov"]
 

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