Tier 7 Requirements

[Cira]

Because Draco mentioned this in Factory Chat:

Here is what we came up with at the end of that discussion, with the consideration of rolling it out in November.

Feel free to discuss, suggest something different, remove, reword, etc

[member="Draco Vereen"] [member="Raziel"] [member="Bianca"] [member="Spencer Jacobs"] [member="Reshmar"] [member="Netherworld"] [member="Ordo"]


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Tier VI to Tier VII

• Sign a contract with two more major factions OR Tier V+ companies.
• Make an additional five mass-produced products.
• Complete seven miscellaneous threads.
• Successfully complete a project of impressive proportions.
• Obtain the permanent sponsorship of another major faction.
• Obtain a contract from a Major Faction to aide in the construction a Flagship.
• Complete corporate espionage operations against competitors.

Any corporate espionage operations can be done against a PC or NPC company.


The current Tier up Requirements for 5 and 6 are below.

Tier IV to Tier V

• Sign a contract with two more major factions OR Tier V+ companies.
• Make an additional three mass-produced products.
• Complete five miscellaneous threads.
• Successfully complete a project of sizable proportions.
• Obtain the sponsorship of a major faction.
  Sponsorship is essentially when a sufficiently large major faction decides to back your company's endeavors specifically. This can either be by them giving you a large, direct annual subsidy, signing a long-term contract, and other things that would tie the government of that faction and your company close together.

Tier V to Tier VI

• Sign a contract with two more major factions OR Tier V+ companies.
• Make an additional four mass-produced products.
• Complete six miscellaneous threads.
• Successfully complete a project of immense proportions.
• Obtain the permanent sponsorship of another major faction.

 

[Cira]

Honestly, not so sure about the corporate espionage. That was tossed in there as a potential idea to change the typical Tier 5 and up requirements.

Perhaps the "Project of Impressive Proportions" could very well be instead "Complete a project of impressive proportions with two other Tier 5+ companies." Make it more about collaborating with others on a galactic scale?

so like this:


Tier VI to Tier VII

• Sign a contract with two more major factions OR Tier V+ companies.
• Make an additional five mass-produced products.
• Complete seven miscellaneous threads.
• Obtain the permanent sponsorship of another major faction.

Pick one from the list below?

• Obtain a contract from a Major Faction to aide in the successful construction a Flagship.
• Successfully complete a project of impressive proportions with two more Tier V+ Companies. ( 300 posts min.)

 

[Cira]

Though if we DO want corporate espionage, then make it a level of risk by making it a tier 5+ PC company.

• Complete corporate espionage operations against a PC Tier V+ company.

Does that make sense?

 

[Ordo]

This is alien territory for me. I will go with whatever.

 

[Ellie Mors]

Complete corporate espionage operations against a PC Tier V+ company.

Yes, please. An NPC organization or smaller company would be too easy with little repercussions.

Make an additional five mass-produced products.

Why don't we go ahead and just double this to ten? As it stands, this is basically one day or two of submissions.

Tier V+ companies.

Why don't we bump this up to tier VI companies? It will make reaching tier VII that much more of a challenge.

I think we should also look into what exactly makes a tier VII company. Tier VI companies, as we have seen, can effectively put down a major faction on their knees (they have partnerships with two major factions). A tier VII company, to me, would remind me of giant super-corporations in the real world, like this list here.

 

[Cira]

Suggested changes added in green. Yellow is what i'm not too sure about.

Tier VI to Tier VII

• Sign a contract with one more major faction OR Tier VI+ company.
• Make an additional ten mass-produced products.
• Complete ten miscellaneous threads.
• Complete corporate espionage operations against a PC Tier V+ company.
• Obtain the permanent sponsorship of another major faction.

Pick one from the list below?

• Obtain a contract from a Major Faction to aide in the successful construction a Flagship.
• Successfully complete a project of impressive proportions with two more Tier V+ Companies. ( 300 posts min and 7 unique writers min.)
• Any other ideas?????

I wonder if the first should be changed to just one, instead of two of numbered req.


These are the current tier 5 and 6 we have.

Tier 6 Companies

1. Akure Executive Interstellar
2. Arceneau Trade Company
3. Mandal Hypernautics [ Canon ]
4. Silk Holdings
5. Titan Industries
6. Ironcrown - Under Review
   
   

Tier 5 Companies

1. ArmaTech Combat Systems
2. Ceto Engineering & Technology Operations
3. Clan Rekali, Incorporated
4. Corellian Engineering Corporation [ canon ]
5. Firemane Industries & Technology
6. Hegemonic Automaton
7. Iron Crown Enterprises
8. Kuat Drive Yards [ Canon ]
9. Omega Pyre
10. Saiba Group
11. Salvatrucha Economic Development Corporation
12. Santhe Corporation[ Canon ]
13. SoroSuub Corporation [ Canon ]
14. Vanir Technologies

 

[Cira]

Also, I wanted to bring into the mix a "perk" perse at tier 7.

What about the potential of a company flagship with the same building reqs as a major faction one? 400 posts and min 7 unique writers.



Right now, if tier 7 is approved -- that would get them:

Maximum length per combat ship: 2333.33 m
Maximum length per non combat ship: 3,500 m
Maximum fleet length : 24,500 m



Obvs, nothing as big as that for a major faction, but as a perk that is outside the normal fleet and length limit of a company?

One 2,000m to 2,500 meters flagship perhaps?



Flagship
Link: http://starwars.wiki...m/wiki/Flagship
Variants: Battlecruiser, Dreadnaught, Super Star Destroyer, Command Ship, Assault Carrier
Average Length: 2000-5000 Meters.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

Make an additional ten mass-produced products.

I would still go with 5. Yeah the Mass Produced stuff is easy, but that is why the Misc Threads exist. All 10 means is a lot more basic stuff NEEDING to be subbed. Yeah, we could all do that 10 Mass Produced Items, but they would be cookie cutter for the most part. Might as well go 5. Its the logical progression.

I think we should also look into what exactly makes a tier VII company. Tier VI companies, as we have seen, can effectively put down a major faction on their knees (they have partnerships with two major factions). A tier VII company, to me, would remind me of giant super-corporations in the real world, like this list here.

I would normally agree with you here, but Major Factions have unlimited funds and there isn't an economy, nor will there be anything more than the very loose one we kinda have. Those corps from that list would use their economic strength to bully governments, companies on Chaos can't necessarily do that as proven with Titan Industries schism with the One Sith.

Sign a contract with one more major faction OR Tier VI+ company.
Obtain the permanent sponsorship of another major faction.

One and One is already enough. That's 3 major Factions all on the same bandwagon (Which means there almost has to be some cross negotiating. I don't think Silk or MH is going to be able to keep those fulfilled as it is.

Complete corporate espionage operations against a PC Tier V+ company.

This is probably going to need some explanation to go with it, by what it is roughly you mean.

What about the potential of a company flagship with the same building reqs as a major faction one? 400 posts and min 7 unique writers.
Obvs, nothing as big as that for a major faction, but as a perk that is outside the normal fleet and length limit of a company?
One 2,000m to 2,500 meters flagship perhaps?

If its not as big, how about we just let them have One Unique 3000 meter ship. Most people aren't gonna leap at that anyway given limited productions massive advantages, and having a big ship is fun and all, but given the restrictions on fleet size, its impractical to have a massive ship unless it is the exception to fleet size. As it is already more than half of ATC's locations would be unguarded Same with Titan and ICE. Logistically, wasting resources on maintaining a significant Flagship would only result in more locations being at risk.

Those are my two cents.

 

[Ellie Mors]

I would normally agree with you here, but Major Factions have unlimited funds and there isn't an economy, nor will there be anything more than the very loose one we kinda have. Those corps from that list would use their economic strength to bully governments, companies on Chaos can't necessarily do that as proven with Titan Industries schism with the One Sith.

I was referring to ATC bringing the Republic to its knees, not a hypothetical what-if. Companies can already subjugate entire factions, with the right degree of influence. I'm not asking for an economy, I'm asking what makes a tier VII not a tier VI. Right now the only privilege they would get is a larger fleet and a bigger maximum ship, which basically just makes it tier VI part 2 (otherwise known as: redundant.)

One and One is already enough. That's 3 major Factions all on the same bandwagon (Which means there almost has to be some cross negotiating. I don't think Silk or MH is going to be able to keep those fulfilled as it is.

OR Tier V+ companies.

The other option is to obtain a contract from another Tier 6, of which there will probably be more than plenty of in coming days. Each tier promotion was either a major faction or company tier V+. If you chose to obtain a major faction contract for tiers V and VI, you can negotiate with other Tier VI's to obtain a contract with them, as I'm sure that is far less difficult than securing a third major faction sponsorship. The entire point of this inclusion is to maintain an atmosphere of being the biggest and the best of the companies, not to introduce another speed bump on the way to level 100.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

The other option is to obtain a contract from another Tier 6, of which there will probably be more than plenty of in coming days. Each tier promotion was either a major faction or company tier V+. If you chose to obtain a major faction contract for tiers V and VI, you can negotiate with other Tier VI's to obtain a contract with them, as I'm sure that is far less difficult than securing a third major faction sponsorship. The entire point of this inclusion is to maintain an atmosphere of being the biggest and the best of the companies, not to introduce another speed bump on the way to level 100.

I was referencing Sponsorships for that.

 

[Cira]

[member="Darth Vulkan"] [member="Bianca"]

It isn't hard to get another major faction sponsorship at all. Just because you have a sponsorship doesn't mean that it cuts into any other sponsorship that you already have.

Case in point Silk and ATC already have *several* sponsorships, with ATC alone at... six last count.

It isn't difficult at all.


As for the 10 tech subs at Mass, I think by tier 7 if it is a production line, i don't see why it wouldn't be hard to make it to ten. Same goes for a service company who has to do 10 misc threads anyways to fulfill the same requirement.


Corporate Espionage?

Yeah I'm sold. Let's make Tier 7 less about "achieving the same ol' same ol" and more fitting with the theme of brutal nature of capitalism and making other companies suffer for it.

- Make a Tier IV or higher company go bankrupt.
- Cause another company to be reduced in tier.
- Buy out another company's subsidiaries.
- Have a Major Faction seize assets of another company and reallocate them to your own company.
- Commit massive corporate espionage on another company.
- Have a opposing CEO/Company Owner assassinated.
- Cause an economic calamity within the Galaxy.

 

[Allyson Locke]

[member="Cira"] I knew that statement was going to bite me in the ass :l

 

[Cira]

If its not as big, how about we just let them have One Unique 3000 meter ship. Most people aren't gonna leap at that anyway given limited productions massive advantages, and having a big ship is fun and all, but given the restrictions on fleet size, its impractical to have a massive ship unless it is the exception to fleet size. As it is already more than half of ATC's locations would be unguarded Same with Titan and ICE. Logistically, wasting resources on maintaining a significant Flagship would only result in more locations being at risk. Those are my two cents.

A stand alone 3k one that isn't part of the fleet is fine. How one uses it can be anything really.

I just think at a tier 7 it would be a neat perk that they still have to dev for.

 

[Cira]

After some discussion with Draco and Justine, figured corporate espionage was too tricky to manage.
[member="Spencer Jacobs"] [member="Darth Vulkan"] @Bianca @Ordo [member="Reshmar"] @Raziel

If you have any more ideas on what would classify a company as a Tier 7 or what else could be a qualification, suggestion, idea, addition, removal, please discuss.

Tier VI to Tier VII

• Sign a contract with one more major faction OR Tier VI+ company.
• Make an additional ten mass-produced products.
• Complete ten miscellaneous threads.
• Obtain the permanent sponsorship of another major faction.

Pick one from the list below.

• Obtain a contract from a Major Faction to aide in the successful construction a Flagship.
• Successfully complete a project of impressive proportions with two more Tier V+ Companies. ( 300 posts min and 7 unique writers min.)
• Any other ideas?????

Potential Perk of a Tier 7 -- Unique Corporate Flagship
A 3k unique flagship for a Tier 7 company ( 400 posts, 7 unique writers min as flagship rules) that stands apart from the normal corporate fleet allotment.


The perk is just an idea that I thought would be neat.

 

[Allyson Locke]

[member="Cira"] No flagship.

 

[Cira]

Okay!

I know! The Prefix thing can be done at tier 7 instead at Tier 6. We haven't rolled it out yet, so that is a good perk.

Or perhaps a Space station at 6k?

 

[Ellie Mors]

Or perhaps a Space station at 6k?

6k as in 6 km? Like, over the limit we have on them at 4 km?

 

[Cira]

[member="Bianca"]

Yup. Special perk.

Trying to think outside the box because right now any company over tier 3 can make a 4km station.

Flagships can top off at 5km for example.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Cira"]
If we gave that to Tier VII's, what about Major factions?

 

[Cira]

If they want to do 300 to 400 posts of dev with at least 7 unique writers?

Sure. [member="Bianca"]

But I'm trying to come up with tier 7 perks. Major factions already have the map and flagships.