Thoughts on Star Wars: The Old Republic?

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Belizarius Krusi"]
Almost all their resources are gone and they're basically in caretaker mode. Their last few 'story' updates are just absurd and have about 5 minutes of story in between hordes of generic enemies. Theron's face heel turn is absurd.

[member="Siobhan Kerrigan"]
Rather you summon ghosts of his family and...do something in the spirit realm. Then he dies.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]


Still don't see why killing Arcann is darkside just because his Mummy gets pissed.


Hello, that dude wiped out five planets. That's more than Malak or Palpy. But he's suddenly good because a bunch of Voss mystics performed a ritual? Never mind the fact that Voss mystics aren't even lightsiders, and it's not like he was possessed.


I have more sympathy for Vaylin because she never had a choice. But Arcann is just a momma's boy.

 

[Belizarius Krusi]

[member="Siobhan Kerrigan"] The entire Zakuul royal family were just evil assholes. They were really just as evil as Sith but simply tried to hide it far better. That's why fighting them with a evil Sith gets kind of weird because in reality.... you're just as evil as them except you don't hide it which apparently means your a better choice.

[member="Valiens Nantaris"] They just need to kill it, either spend the money or just give up.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

[member="Belizarius Krusi"]


Pretty much.


We keep hearing about how amazing Zakuul is and how its Knight use the Force in a way that's different and superior to both the Jedi and the Sith. But their royal family are exactly like Sith: We have two Caligulas and the old tyrant...who spends most of the game acting like a grumpy grandpa who's annoyed about his kids messing up his lawn. Bit strange that the Sith don't just flock to join an Empire that's...not so different from the one they presently inhabit.


And the Knights are just the usual mooks. This makes it all quite generic. Besides, the Eternal Fleet stops being a threat the moment you have the plot device ship. Except when its plot device cannon doesn't work or Koth takes it for a joyride.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Belizarius Krusi"] [member="Siobhan Kerrigan"]

Plus Valky is all 'the Sith were a failure' which is annoying for players who like the Sith. His wonderful gold knights aren't any better.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

Plus Valky is all 'the Sith were a failure' which is annoying for players who like the Sith. His wonderful gold knights aren't any better.

I'm fine with the character having that viewpoint. A character shouldn't pander to the ooc sentiments of players.


My issue is that his Eternal Empire is lame, too. And his gold knights are just generic mooks. And we never get any evidence of them being great. Really, the Empire's one big trump card is their fleet. Which doesn't play much of a role after you get the Gravestone...and as seen at Voss, said fleet can't even BDZ a planet properly.


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[Belizarius Krusi]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"][member="Siobhan Kerrigan"] Because they never really explain why the Sith were a failure, why the Knights were so awesome since you apparently can kill them easy enough.

Valkorian was just stupid but reality is the entire storyline has this level of pretentiousness. It almost tries too hard to make you go "oh, look how awesome this concept of how the force works is"

Why are the Knights more powerful? because they're REALLY into their Emperor? I can see why that would let them channel the force but not why it's automatically stronger to use the force from the middle ground.

 

[Belizarius Krusi]

Triple post

 

[Belizarius Krusi]

Triple post

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

And do the gold guards use it from the middle? They seem pretty dark side to me, what with the choking and the massacring.

So are they better because they have the ruthlessness of the Sith with the discipline of the Jedi? That'd be a good argument to make...but not one held up or even mentioned elsewhere.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

And do the gold guards use it from the middle? They seem pretty dark side to me, what with the choking and the massacring.

Well, their leaders wage unprovoked wars of aggression, commit war crimes and bomb planets...so yeah.

So are they better because they have the ruthlessness of the Sith with the discipline of the Jedi? That'd be a good argument to make...but not one held up or even mentioned elsewhere.

They're better because they use shields. Now if only they used a phrik Scutum.


[member="Valiens Nantaris"]