Political Convention

[Alice Red]

I realize I am going to get some flack for this, but I feel that the conference [member="Rosa Gunn"] attempted to host has failed. She has my respect for attempting such a thing, but entire thing, unfortunately, developed into a thinly veiled witch hunt where little discussion was actually facilitated, and served more as a hivemind of wanting to screw with the Sith. Coupled with people leaving the conference, an actual brawl breaking out during the resting period, and a few other things, I feel it lost it's purpose and legitimacy. It also seemed to have, more or less, died down.

As such, I want to suggest attempts at restarting it. I am able, and willing, to offer Filth as a meeting point for this convention. All personnel and their belongings shall be safeguarded and I put forward my word that nothing will happen to either the representatives or their items. As well, it will be a more private matter. Faction leaders, and / or their representatives are automatically invited to attend. Minor factions, be them political, industrial, or of other kinds, are allowed to attend as well as long as they have a vested interest in this and actually represent an organizational body.

Certain people, like [member="Popo"] and [member="Ayden"] Carter have already said they would be interested in attending. Whether that still holds or not, I am not entirely sure as it has been quite a few days since I asked them.

I want to put it forward that, while the Sith will undoubtedly be a major topic for discussion in this, do not assume that the only thing talked about is their destruction. And for the sake of legitimacy, the Sith are invited to attend as well and put forward their piece in front of the others in public. Their safety will be guaranteed, just like the others. The guarantee is nulled to whoever decides to draw a weapon on another first.

 

[Soeht]

Coupled with people leaving the conference, an actual brawl breaking out during the resting period, and a few other things, I feel it lost it's purpose and legitimacy.

This is why the galaxy must be united by force!

And also, I think a wide-open political conference where everyone is offering their opinion (Whether purely IC, or fueled by OOC, doesn't matter), you are going to get the same results as Rosa's thread. Though if the thread is made, I'll see to having the Sith represented.

 

[Alice Red]

I plan on enforcing order, where necessary. That is not to say I'm going to silence dissenting opinions, but if I have to tie both sides to chairs and have them listen out to each other, I'm willing to take the risk of being zapped in the face.

Regardless, good to have you aboard.

 

[Mirage]

I wouldn't mind providing some levity and entertainment for such a meeting.

 

[Alice Red]

[member="Mirage"]

I'm certain some would enjoy some entertainment to unwind to afterwards. Unfortunately, you would not have access to the main stage through the meeting itself

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Alice Red"]
Uhh...of course it was an (IC) witch hunt against the Sith. They were trying to form a union to resist Sith imperialism! The whole point of the meeting was to herd cats and procure a viable alliance.

If you invite everyone there will be far, far more troubles because Sith and Jedi cannot keep their lightsabres off and it will turn into an unholy brawl with both sides blaming each other for breaking the truce.

 

[J3C0]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]
Lies and Slander!

-waves lightsaber-

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Darth Mierin"]
I see your game, Sith! Betrayer!

...And that's how your conference turns into a bloodbath
[member="Alice Red"]

 

[Alice Red]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

A witchhunt that had only one goal in mind, and no proper continuation to it.

Say the alliance destroys the Sith, then what? The alliance will be broken because it's only a fickle attempt at keeping the Sith in check and will turn on each other the second it proves beneficial. Planets bombarded either by the alliance or the Sith will remain in shambles and no proper relief or reconstruction process will go into them. Sith teachings won't be properly curtained and new sects will arise mere weeks later, and a new Empire in two months top, and the whole process will restart.

And at the end of the day, all you got out of it was piss off more civilians and wasted resources and manpower. If you want to defeat someone properly, you must also think about the aftermath, and not just how to throw as many bodies against them and hope you can sink their ship.

Edit : Also, as I mentioned, I am willing to enforce order no matter what. If that means putting everybody in a ysalmari cage and having guns pointed at all dignitaries, then that's how its gonna happen. Just remember that whoever strikes first is the one that will make themselves and their faction look like a bunch of mongrels

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Alice Red"]
And which delegates would agree to these draconian conditions?

The history of coalitions on Earth is long and stories as well you know. The 7th Coalition wasn't looking past the defeat of Napoleon, the Allies past the defeat of Hitler. They had an enemy and witch hunted them to destruction, as unfair and short-sighted as that was, that's how the balance of power works.
The One Sith are dynamic, successful, aggressive and new. That sparks a counter from the existing, under attack states. I can't see what the Sith and Republic are going to agree on, since their base demands are utterly unacceptable to the other.
Popo: Give us back Coruscant!
Ordo: Give us all the Jedi!
And in any case, any truce would only be a small cool down before a new and more vicious war develops.

 

[Alice Red]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

Those who would have no interest in starting a bloodsheed and ruining their public image.

As for the Allies vs Axis scenarios, both sides also looked past the immediate future once defeat wasn't guaranteed. Both the Allies and the Soviets threw resources en mass into their newly conquered territories in order to help them rebuild and allow the local population a chance to return to better times, as well as bringing them closer to their ideological side. Germany, especially, got aid in order to prop them up as a buffer state between the two forging alliances.

I do not expect this talks to result in any long lasting truce between the Sith and the Republic. Instead, I only want to offer to have both sides present their story. If that itself fails, and the talks are brought back into being an Anti-Sith alliance, I have no issue with that. All I hope for is that the discussion can be directed in such a way that it won't result into another breakdown and armed brawl between the participants, and actually speaks of the what-ifs and aftermath of the war.

Plus, offer a more political based approach to this entire war, rather than just have it entirely based on lightsabers and cannons.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Alice Red"]
Oh, I think it's a cool idea for you to try.

I just think it'll end in utter disaster.

 

[Alice Red]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

No way to be sure until you try.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Alice Red"]
That's Icarus said....

 

[Rosa Gunn]

The problem I had was that factions were over represented, and the people I wanted to contribute only made one or two posts.

Also someone totally got carried away with their presentation....

If you feel you can do a better job, by all means carry on.

 

[Oka Osaa]

I'd actually have no problems keeping my light sabers on my belt

 

[Grand Moff Helranth]

[member="Alice Red"]

As a politician still trying to find a planet to represent, I would like to attend such a conference. May I also suggest that lightsabers be removed and all people present must wear a bracelet or something to nullify the use of the force? In good faith, I will volunteer wearing one as I can use the force a little, but want to see diplomacy and not fighting. I also request a representitive of the invading force of Naboo be present so terms can be discussed.

 

[Grand Moff Helranth]

[member="Alice Red"]

I also suggest you pick the representatives. In this post alone I can see the confrontational ones an in my opinion would invite the ones who can control themselves such as the grand master Jedi and the one sith leader. Surely they both have control enough to be decent.

 

[Cross Ikon]

My Admiral-ness will be there... Maybe.

 

[sabrina]

I'd actually have no problems keeping my light sabers on my belt

I have no problem keeping your lightsaber on my belt


Though I would be happy to attend with other dignitaries, if we put some one forward. Yes I can be trusted not to start fight, end it how ever I may.

[member="Darth Mierin"] [member="Darth Junra"]