Midi-Cholrian Mutation?

[Trenchcoat Man]

[member="Patricia Susan Garter"]

No, it wouldn't sever a Force connection. I think you're allowing the similarities between Force powers and some superpowers to confuse you into seeing the two as being the same thing. The brain isn't what connects a person to the Force, or even what allows them to manipulate it. It's just where the Will and nuance-of-identity behind the whole bit comes from.

Best you could hope for is distracting/disrupting abilities by virtue of the sonic attack being annoying.

 

[Miss Blonde]

[member="Trenchcoat Man"]


Thanks again

 

[Trenchcoat Man]

[member="Patricia Susan Garter"]

The way you need to think of midichlorians is as subatomic Jedi/Sith. If you were to attack them, they'd probably fight you.

The whole point of the midichlorian was to illustrate that this whole Force Battle was seeking balance and in-conflict on every tier of existence, infinite smallness and infinite largeness.

Hadit, Nuit, Ra Hoor Kuit.

See, here: http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=12282

Or, in short, "As above, so below."

Your Kingdom Come, Thy Will Be Done, On Earth as it is Heaven.

 

[Vereaux]

[member="Trenchcoat Man"]

Stop while you're ahead, because you've gone way into left field at this point. She's just asking questions, and your posts are coming off with an attitude. People have their opinions and their own perspectives, so let's leave it be.

[member="Patricia Susan Garter"]

Now, to properly answer your question, high frequencies would make it so that, at the very least, humans would find it difficult to concentrate and maintain focus, but just blasting one sound doesn't do very much. The brain can go through multiple different states of activity, and different levels of frequency. Would it stop them from using Force Powers, as in cut them off? You're more likely to cause the being a migraine than cut off his connection to the Force from my understanding, or effect the electrical activity of his heart to go nuts and cause internal bleeding, whichever comes first =P

Hope that helps ^-^

 

[Damien Zannen]

Why would you do dis!? Anakin was a 1hit wonder bro! [member="Patricia Susan Garter"]

But yea you could do it, Plagueis master did it after all. Tenebris? i think he was

 

[Darth Avida]

Why would you do dis!? Anakin was a 1hit wonder bro! [member="Patricia Susan Garter"]

But yea you could do it, Plagueis master did it after all. Tenebris? i think he was

See the aforementioned post in terms of Plagueis and Tenebrous.

 

[Darth Avida]

[member="Silara Kuhn"] [member="Trenchcoat Man"]

Another question unrelated. Do you think that a headset say a nueral inhibitor that emitted high frequency radio waves to disrupt the brains delta waves could temporarily sever someone's connection to the force? Or would high frequency radio waves scramble a persons brains. I know low frequency ones such as car radios and cell phones don't do anything but a more concentrated dose at higher frequencies

It would hinder their focus, which is what dictates the control a force user has over the force. So in a nutshell, no, it would not do anything to their connection to the force - but it would make using it in any controlled fashion incredibly difficult.

 

[Damien Zannen]

See the aforementioned post in terms of Plagueis and Tenebrous.

Yes... I didnt read any comments. Only thing I saw was the title and then my fingers did the rest.

 

[Iziz]

It should also be noted that both Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious were the most powerful Sith Lords in the history of star wars

Other than, Ya'know... Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Darth Vitiate (he could rip apart space), Nihilus, Andeddu, Hell, possibly Bane and Simus were stronger.

Plagueis was a brilliant alchemist, but, not the most 'powerful' by a long shot. And, although Sideus did some pretty impressive stuff, he couldn't travel from world to world absorbing all life or destroy suns >.>

 

[Trenchcoat Man]

@ Trenchcoat Man Stop while you're ahead, because you've gone way into left field at this point. She's just asking questions, and your posts are coming off with an attitude. People have their opinions and their own perspectives, so let's leave it be.

If you go into a thread looking for a fight, you're going to find one, whether the other person's deserving or not. It's generally in your best interest not to be so confrontational with your wording unless you're actually sure.

Anyway, my posts can't come with anything more than they are. If I didn't include an attitude, then it must be you putting it there. ^_^ (I mean, she did tag me specifically, right?)

I can only assume you were skimming or something. In your "proper answering of her question," (Rude phrasing, by the way) you literally resaid what I already had. I mean, as you've stated, you had already figured I should "quit while I was ahead" as I had "already veered off into left field," so I can understand if you had tuned out.

[member="Vereaux"]

 

[Captain Larraq]

On a related note... SCIENCE!


Midichlorians are real!

Real-Life Midichlorians!

*Mitochondrion

Mitochondrial Disease

Dark Matter, apparently, is midichlorians

I once had a patient with a Mitochondrial Disease. It basically boiled down to his body not working appropriately... Running or exerting himself would basically throw his body into chaos and produce symptoms similar to a stroke or heart attack.

The Paramedic was clueless about how to treat the patient's current condition and, when the patient tried to explain his disease, the Paramedic asked “So what does that mean?”

The patient apparently loved my response. “It means he's a Jedi.”



A little humor can do wonders in a bad situation.





Anyway! The original question here was a simple one.. Can you mutate Midicholrians?

The answer is obvious. If it has DNA, you can engineer it to your hearts content. And for the sake of this board, all that boils down to is an appropriate development thread of science and awesomeness that gets stapled to a species or technology submission.


If I may offer a suggestion... Instead of trying to make a stronger or more potent type of Midicholrian, why not attempt something entirely different?

Save a sect of Yuuzhan Vong from their ancient shame. Manipulate the Midicholrians within their bodies and reconnect them with the Force. Create a sect of Yuuzhan Vong Jedi that seek peace and balance in the galaxy in honor of their god, Yun-Yuuzhan, and for the sake of repenting for the ancient sins of their species. The sect could believe that Midicholrians/The Force is what remains of the body of Yun-Yuuzhan, who made the universe from his body... And that by saving and conserving life and by committing self sacrifice to help end and prevent wars... that they are honoring the will of and asking forgiveness from their god, Zonama Sekot.

Spoiler

Yuuzhan Vong and the Force

As discovered by the Jedi during the war with the Yuuzhan Vong they are apparently "absent" from the Force. In the book The New Jedi Order: The Unifying Force by James Luceno, the reason for this is given. The Yuuzhan Vong are not "absent" from the Force; their entire species has been cut off from it. It is surmised in the novel that this was implemented by the intelligence of their homeworld, the seed of which would one day become Zonama Sekot, because of their warmongering and hostile takeovers of other species.


-Wookieepedia entry on Yuuzhan Vong

Spoiler

This was because despite his diminutive and pitiful appearance, Onimi now possessed a connection to the Force that had been lost to the Yuuzhan Vong for many thousands of years. This gave him the power to manipulate the minds of others. His experiments also gave him other powers; not only was he able to amplify the energy flowing through his mismatched form, but he could create deadly toxins and chemicals through his metabolism and release them through almost every bodily fluid he produced, such as his sweat or saliva. He could even secrete toxins out of his nails.

-Onimi

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the Shamed Ones came to believe that the Force was the remains of Yun-Yuuzhan, and that the Jedi were connected with the Yuuzhan Vong. The Jeedai heresy was formed, and Nom Anor assumed the guise of the prophet Yu'shaa, preaching that the arrival of Zonama Sekot would herald the end of the Shamed Ones' oppression.

-Shamed Ones

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According to legend, Yun-Yuuzhan sacrificed his body parts to form the universe, the lesser gods, and the Yuuzhan Vong. In honor of his sacrifices, the Yuuzhan Vong in turn sacrificed body parts—and living beings—in remembrance of his act of creation. He was revered formally on the holiest days on the Yuuzhan Vong calendar; such dates were the occasions on which rites and sacrifices devoted to him were conducted.

Furthermore, according to the Yuuzhan Vong beliefs, the creator god contained all knowledge of the universe which he kept to himself. However, he was robbed of some of this information by Yun-Harla who in turn provided it to Yun-Ne'Shel and she gave it to the Yuuzhan Vong.

-Yun Yuuzhan

Spoiler

Upon learning that the Jedi had redeemed Rapuung, other Shamed Ones began to believe that the Jedi could redeem all Shamed Ones.

Despite efforts by Warmaster Tsavong Lah to suppress both news of Vua Rapuung incident and the "heresy", the heresy continued to spread throughout Yuuzhan Vong space among the Shamed Ones and the lower-class workers and slaves. By the time Shimrra Jamaane, the Supreme Overlord of the Yuuzhan Vong, arrived on Yuuzhan'tar, the heretics were disorganized, and some groups had contradictory views of Rapuung's redemption. High Priest Jakan, head of the Priest caste, advocated that the heretics be hunted down and killed, but Shimrra decided that they would just try to give them a warning. Jakan, however, inadvertently defined some of their doctrine, when he said that Jaina Solo and Jacen Solo had no connection to Yun-Harla, the Trickster, and Yun-Yammka, the Slayer. Still, the groups remained contradictory.

That all changed after the Battle of Ebaq 9, when Nom Anor was forced to flee Shimrra after the disaster caused the death of Warmaster Tsavong Lah. Anor, realizing that this could be the way that he could dethrone Shimrra, assumed the guise of Yu'shaa, the Prophet, and began forming their doctrine for them. Yu'shaa said that the Force was the remaining exaltations of Yun-Yuuzhan, the Creator God of the Yuuzhan Vong, who had died when he created the Universe. Anor later gained an ally in Ngaaluh, a priestess of Yun-Harla, who had heard about the heresy and believed it to be the Truth. Ngaaluh became Anor's spy in Shimrra's Citadel, bringing false accusations against Anor's rivals in the intendant caste, in the hope that it would remove Shimrra's most competent prefects.


-Jeedai Heresy

Spoiler

They originated on a planet and lived in a symbiosis with their planet. When they were threatened and attacked by two species using machines etc. their planet sort of gave them biologically produced "living" weapons and technology with which they could defend themselves and ultimately defeat the enemies.

Afterwards they started using their weapons, which their planet gave them, to start a conquest in their galaxy against other races to clean the galaxy of all machines. This lead to great destruction throughout the whole galaxy and eventually their connection to the force was severed.

To clarify this has nothing to do with the force only existing in our galaxy. But in extreme cases it is possible for individuals to have their connection to the force destroyed (also a powerful force technique).

In this case it was caused through the destruction of their home-world during the war.

EDIT:

Trying to make it more clear.

The reason Jedi cannot sense them is that they leave no signature or trace or presence in the force. As it is described the Force flows through you is inside and around everyone and connects all living beings (accept those who lost their connection). Because of this nobody can sense someone if they have no connection as they leave no "footprint" in the Force.

- Reddit discussion about Vong and the Force

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On a related note; did anyone else not know that Star Wars had a sentient planet that could zip around the galaxy and generally be a superhero?

Did anyone know that it's on the SW: Chaos map (snuggled up right next to LOF space)?

Is anyone else thankful that there is a rule preventing the RP of canon characters?

Because... that planet on the map? That's a freaking NPC.

This totally needs to be the IC form of SW: Chaos's Admins when they need to take action in a thread.



Someone blew up a planet? Mogo(Tefka) the GM flies in and uses planet-scale Jedi powers to fix the planet.

Someone's Powergaming with a fleet? Mogo(Tefka) the GM flies in and puts everyone in Time Out.



Anyone?

Anyone?

Come on! He's even green!

Spoiler

Mogo

 

[Trenchcoat Man]

[member="Captain Larraq"]

I mean, Star Wars shares the Celestials with the Marvel Universe, and there's no denying Darth Vader's mask and a lot of the general aesthetic came from Jack Kirby's work with the New Gods/Eternals (I think Kirby was also drawing the Battlestar Galactica book at the time). There's mad comic bleedover during the Silver Age period where this kind of giant sentient planet Sci-Fi was way hip.

And George Lucas has always been one to assert Kirby's missions statement of not stifling your imagination with "rules" and just fill your make-believe universe with as much weird stuff as you possibly can.

 

[Captain Larraq]

[member="Captain Larraq"]

I mean, Star Wars shares the Celestials with the Marvel Universe, and there's no denying Darth Vader's mask and a lot of the general aesthetic came from Jack Kirby's work with the New Gods/Eternals (I think Kirby was also drawing the Battlestar Galactica book at the time). There's mad comic bleedover during the Silver Age period where this kind of giant sentient planet Sci-Fi was way hip.

I just love the mental image here...

All sorts of chaos is going on... We're neck deep in an event... everything is going horribly... And then we hear it... we all hear it. A voice in our heads.


"All will be Well."


Hyperspace ripples with activity... space and time and gravity bend and shift... and Zonama Sekot appears in the sky above.

Winds howl, oceans rage, and fleets are scattered to the wind.

"All will be Well." The voice repeats in the minds of all.

Silence falls as the unbreakable will of Zonama Sekot uses Force Push to shove the Celestial from the Galaxy.

 

[Trenchcoat Man]

It's lovely.

And my favorite part is how it looks like such a terribly lame idea on paper

But when executed with heart?

Magic.

 

[Vereaux]

If you go into a thread, looking for a fight, you're going to find one. Whether the other person's deserving or not. It's generally in your best interestes not to be so confrontational with your wording unless you're actually sure.

Anyway, my posts can't come with anything more than they are. If I didn't include an attitude, then it must be you putting it there. ^_^ (I mean, she did tag me specifically, right?)

I can only assume you were skimming or something. In your "proper answering of her question," (Rude phrasing, by the way) you literally resaid what I already had. I mean, as you've stated, you had already figured I should "quit while I was ahead" as I had "already veered off into left field," so I can understand if you had tuned out.

I'm not looking for a fight. I'm saying that your wording came off as confrontational. Now if mine did, then I apologize. I perceived that you didn't answer her question at all, but skipped what she was asking. From this view point, I said what I said. Honesty is the good policy in my opinion, so I'm trying to do that by making clear what I'm saying. Again I apologize if I came off as confrontational. Tone doesn't tend to translate well over text.

 

[Trenchcoat Man]

[member="Vereaux"]

It's cool. From what you've said, it sounds like we're in the same boat -- our cool, calm tones are unfortunate victims of our aggressive wording.

 

[Vereaux]

[member="Vereaux"]

It's cool. From what you've said, it sounds like we're in the same boat -- our cool, calm tones are unfortunate victims of our aggressive wording.

Story of our lives xP

 

[Darth Avida]

Other than, Ya'know... Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Darth Vitiate (he could rip apart space), Nihilus, Andeddu, Hell, possibly Bane and Simus were stronger.

Plagueis was a brilliant alchemist, but, not the most 'powerful' by a long shot. And, although Sideus did some pretty impressive stuff, he couldn't travel from world to world absorbing all life or destroy suns >.>

I am going by canon. Sidious is unrivalled,

Oh, and he created a giant rift in space called a force storm. You should look that up.

 

[Iziz]

As he used that technique 6 years after he died the first time post endor, and as that crosses into the extended canon which would potentially restrict the upcoming movies, it's no longer canon... just like Jacen Solo's story etc. etc.

So, to quote you:

You should look that up.

PS. please don't be rude or i will rebut in kind. I was being light-hearted before.

 

[Jorus Merrill]

I am going by canon. Sidious is unrivalled, Oh, and he created a giant rift in space called a force storm. You should look that up.

I could point to half a dozen Sith who did things Palpatine could never hope to do, people that canon also describes as unrivaled or the strongest ever or however you want to describe it. One citation (if you have one) doesn't prove a point, not when it comes to a canon this fractured. Basically, Iziz may be new, but he's right about that. [member="Iziz Vei"], you should know that we follow Legends canon around here (or else 90% of our planets would disappear, lol).