Mandalorian Crusaders

[Boethiah]

Hey everyone, this is a faction-wide discussion for the introduction and affairs of the Mandalorian Crusaders sub-faction. I'd like everyone interested to discuss and detail following possibilities and ideas.

• The War of the Mandalores - How would you like us to roleplay the conflict with the Mandalorians major faction?
  
• Worlds under the Crusaders - So far Dantooine and Echoy'la have been reserved, does this suit you?
  
• Rank and file - Should the rank system mirror current Mandalorians or should we get creative?
  
• Our first thread - A big public thread or a small private one? Any ideas?
  
• A galactic tournament? - If we want to start off with a bang, how about a galactic tournament for warriors?
  

Any ideas? Feel free to discuss!

[member="Malik Rodarch"] (For you )

 

[Zambrano the Starweird]

I have a name suggestion, since you said the Crusaders bit was a placeholder.

Remember Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders? Why not Mandalorian Prim-Crusaders, Prim being short for Primordial.

Other suggestions forth coming...

 

[Zambrano the Starweird]

• The War of the Mandalores - How would you like us to roleplay the conflict with the Mandalorians major faction?: I suggest that we name it the Mandalorian Schism, and I think the main ideology we should focus on is the glorification of Battle and War, regardless of the enemy encountered. I wouldn't say honorless, but perhaps a extremely stripped back version of that honor. You might even call it... a Primal Code.
  
• Worlds under the Crusaders - So far Dantooine and Echoy'la have been reserved, does this suit you?: Not sure on this one.
  
• Rank and file - Should the rank system mirror current Mandalorians or should we get creative? I feel like it should be relatively the same, they have a good system going and doesn't affect ideology much. However, I suggest that the New Mandalore, should be called Mandalore Prime.
  
• Our first thread - A big public thread or a small private one? Any ideas? Yes, go big or go home. Very open, but it should be stipulated that it needs to be about the Mandalorian conflict, and a bunch of force users from various factions can't go storming the castle because they see an opportunity.
  
• A galactic tournament? - If we want to start off with a bang, how about a galactic tournament for warriors? I highly do not recommend this option until farther down the line. I've tried starting factions with Tournaments, and it simply ends in a bust. They come for the attraction, but hold no commitment towards the goal. Also, what purpose would it serve? How much time are you willing to dedicate to creating the bracket's, and the rules, and background for all this? It just is not ideal for starting out a faction in my opinion.

 

[Boethiah]

[member="Zambrano the Hutt"]

You have great insight into this matter, and I definitely agree we need to start off with a bang to grab attention and build up some momentum. As for the name, my only concern is if we stray too far from something people recognize that perhaps they won't find it interesting. One of the reasons I know people join The Primeval is merely because it's an open canvas. You can't really make the Mandalorians that much of an open canvas just because it then only becomes a name. People are going to want to join because they want a faction that supports war, that isn't afraid to get active, and actually makes it interesting for NFUs.

Not that i'm critical of the current Mandalorian major faction, but I want to differentiate from them... An advantage for us is that we can successfully create an opportunity to have people roleplay strictly as Mandalorians, that's it. If the idea loses traction it's not going to bring down an entire faction with it. That's why the Major Faction Mandos can't get traction with the idea, because if it suddenly became exclusive then it's riding entirely on their ability to produce a new story every week. Even then, you'd have to keep people interested in their characters...

So, again, I really feel like you've made some solid points and that's something I want to work on. Now, my apologies for running off into a multi paragraph statement but the reason why this relates to a name is that we want to make sure our name really hits the theme. Mandalorian Schism is a good suggestion, and one we should definitely keep in mind, but when I hear Schism I think of a permanent split. People want there to be a concrete goal that we intend to actually kill the true Mandalore and take their worlds.

 

[Via Dolorosa]

[member="Zambrano the Hutt"]

I love your ideas...the only one I see being a problem is a Public RP. Even if you put stipulations in...people are going to ignore them. Seen it with other factions doing public events. And when you pointe out the rules/stipulations they whine and rudely pointe out "PUBLIC".

 

[Zambrano the Starweird]

Might I ask what kind of war these Crusaders would be looking for?

Also a side note, I just wookied it, and apparently a Mandalorian Schism involving crusaders is already a thing, though it wasn't at all successful and has very little description.

 

[Boethiah]

[member="Zambrano the Hutt"]

The whole idea is we want a Mandalorian sub-faction that feels much like the classic tale told in BioWare's Kotor series or the Dark Horse comics of which they're based. We want bloodthirsty warmongers who are united under a common cause, in support of a leader who claims to be the greatest warrior in the galaxy. Mandalorians light fires over an entire world, bomb cities, and kill Jedi because they strive to fight the battles that are remembered forever... To have opponents who are said to be stronger than them so they can claim true strength.

Think of it this way... Mandalorians are nomadic, warlike, and serve the concept of strength through merit. They have to prove that they're strong through example. Currently the Mandalorians (major faction) are politically-oriented, have been quiet, and are heavily reliant on the Republic (Empress Teta is good example) and have had Mandalores who quietly retired into the background and support the one who took their place.

To humor me, if we were able to ask the Mandalorians written in the amazing storylines of Dark Horse comics and Kotor, they'd probably claim that no true Mandalore would act that way. Thus we come to a conclusion that Azrael is not the true Mandalore but merely a pretender who's destroying the sanctity of what it means to be a Mandalorian.

With that in mind the goal of our sub-faction is to restore the warlike culture of the Mandalorians and bring about an age of great battles and warfare.

 

[Zambrano the Starweird]

[member="Anja Aj'Rou"] That's boss as hell... boss

Keep those vibes up and you might have something great going on! I'm not sure why, but I don't think I quite got those vibes during your advertisement. To me it just felt like a copycat of the Mandalorians that simply didn't like the current regime. Now that you've described them as going back to their roots, and outing the political connections the current regime has taken, I think you have a very solid base.

Now we need to show that through example some how. Bring out the skeletons in the current regimes closet that throws dirt in their face, attack their increasingly ineffective ways and manners, and put on a massive demonstration.

One thing I absolutely suggest however, is to have this new Mandalorian cabal be lead (for the time being) by an NPC that is mutually controlled by a number of people OOC by general consensus, until one of our own native Mandalorians is capable of challenging this new Mandalore, prior to the ultimate clash between Azrael and these New Mandalorians.

I may even bring out an old bloodthirsty mando of mine for this... or more likely his son, since its been a few years. Either way, I am willing to pitch in some support for this. I'll even make some unique NPC's for people to work with or adopt as their own!

 

[Boethiah]

[member="Zambrano the Hutt"]

Maybe my ad wasn't aggressive enough! I'll mull over it a bit, but my biggest concern is whether or not I can attract writers

It takes only a few to attract the attention of the many but it's also quite obvious that writers are becoming stretched thin on the site so it'll likely be a legitimate schism which could be fun. Mandalorians for various reasons picking and choosing sides, before we go 'public' as in start really pulling strings I want to make sure that we have an environment. I haven't posted the ad up yet in the recruitment areas because I don't want people to join and then be like "Well, I don't know where to go so I'm going to just leave now."

 

[Valerie Vizsla]

-waves little flag-

 

[Boethiah]

[member="Valerie Vizsla"]

Dat bio yo! We also needed a Beskar Smith

 

[Isley Verd]

Long ago, the Mandalorians worshipped pagan deities.

Amongst those was Kad Ha'rangir, the epitome of destruction and change. To worship him, the Mandalorians rampaged across the stars, waging immense wars in his name. The worshippers of Ha'rangir became known as Mandalorian Crusaders.

What if...

The Mandalorian Crusaders of the present were the spiritual successors of these worshippers? What if their Manda'lor heard the voice and will of Kad Ha'rangir? What if the current Mandalorians were seen as children of Arasuum, thereby making them targets for destruction?

What if the Dark Lord was the one truly putting his voice into the mind of the Crusaders' Manda'lor?

Just a thought.

 

[Zambrano the Starweird]

Long ago, the Mandalorians worshipped pagan deities. Amongst those was Kad Ha'rangir, the epitome of destruction and change. To worship him, the Mandalorians rampaged across the stars, waging immense wars in his name. The worshippers of Ha'rangir became known as Mandalorian Crusaders. What if... The Mandalorian Crusaders of the present were the spiritual successors of these worshippers? What if their Manda'lor heard the voice and will of Kad Ha'rangir? What if the current Mandalorians were seen as children of Arasuum, thereby making them targets for destruction? What if the Dark Lord was the one truly putting his voice into the mind of the Crusaders' Manda'lor? Just a thought.

YES YES YES! BRING ON THE GODSSSSS!

 

[Isley Verd]

I just imagined Jabba the Hutt jumping up and down, jiggling all over.

Ickee, Weekee, Yuck.

<3

 

[Malik Rodarch]

What if the Dark Lord was the one truly putting his voice into the mind of the Crusaders' Manda'lor?

I love this.

Fantastic input, guys!

 

[Valerie Vizsla]

There is precedent for that idea. The Dark Lord previously manipulated Ordo into thinking that he was the Dark Lord, messing with his mind so that he would work for the One Sith. Of course this rather failed since the Mandalorians refused to follow Ordo even after he beat their Mandalore, but the idea is a sound one.

 

[Zambrano the Starweird]

What happened with the Dark Lord anyway? Daella killed him and then...?

I've always wondered that but never bothered to ask.

 

[Isley Verd]

[member="Valerie Vizsla"]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

The Dark Lord has already proven himself to be master, mental manipulator. It would be child's play for him to whisper in a radical's ear and watch the resulting fireworks

 

[Valerie Vizsla]

[member="Zambrano the Hutt"]

He didn't "die"

His body was destroyed, but he got a new one. It was ultimately left up to the faction whether or not they wanted a PC Dark Lord or keep the NPC. They decided to stick with the NPC

 

[Boethiah]

[member="Valerie Vizsla"] [member="Isley Verd"] [member="Zambrano the Hutt"]

This could definitely work, I'm actually working on bringing roleplay between the Sith and us together anyway... If we want to bring the Sith in on an angle then we can definitely go for it, my only concern is I don't want people to feel like they have no say in the matter. But seeing as the Dark Lord is an NPC that might be taken care of in its own right so long as we get permission to roleplay how that works as we see fit. I'll talk to Rev about it.