Discussion Do Force Powers feel less compelling the more grandoise they become?

[Koda Fett]

I think the issue has more to do with power escalation, which extends beyond FU characters and into NFU ones as well. Person A writes themselves at a high level, Person B wants to continue to write in the fight and has their character meet that level, now Person A and Person B are in an escalating arms race. At this point, there's nothing that can be done about it. Chaos is a high-power environment, for better or worse. Someone above said find your people and that's all you can really do, because not everyone will write something you want to engage with and that's okay.

 

[Joy]

I don't know how to tag or quote on my phone lol hopefully Alan will know this is a reply to their last post.

For me it is an affect of watching and experiencing Disney SW for the past decade. Growing up we wondered things like how would the ro2 Sith would look like before the prequel films and then they gave us the Acolyte. We wondered what a force maelstrom would be like on the big screen and then they gave us ep9.

It's fatigue basically. I am lucky enough to experience things like Andor and then unlucky enough to have seen Acolyte. In role-playing I prefer to read and interact with characters who are grounded. Someone who doesn't feel unbeatable or is written to not to be trifled with. Stuff like this.

It feeds into the entire dynamic of writing op force powers. I don't personally want to read an entire armada having to deal with a force horror amplified by a Sith meditation spare etc. I want ROTS level opera in this type of scenario. I think most people do as well.

 

[Matsu Ike]

It terms of the movies aside from bufget being a small factor it was also usually focused on a small group. Chaos has hundreds of force users at any given time and the open sandbox of it allows for just about any level of it. As the EU established most of the beings that were incredibly power were able to use the force in ways others could not. We see this with the Aing-Tii and the rift as the energy there allows for some bizarre and powerful abilities with training but also knowing how to use it. Other abilities that were powerful if you had an understanding of the physics behind them you could ease the strain of using them. Alter environment, something that could do a lot if you tried to force it would take a lot but if you know how to do the smaller manipulations you can set the storm in motion and let it build with minimal strain and effort.

Me personally, I enjoy the worldbuilding that went into some of the more obscure. the sadly unpublished tales that were going to have a movie character from New Hope be shown things from a force god to understand there are far older things and before Revenge of the Sith came out they did the comic with several shorts leading up to it. One being about the precepts, force beings from before and outside of the galaxy. Tying into the Gaimen and Moore era of the comics which saw the forces influences upon cosmic level beings grow and would all be used to become Abeloth and be seen in the clone wars even if a little truncated to cut out some of the more powerful things like sending a human form of yourself back in time to create a new body that you can use if your father destroys your current form.

But all of that said, I welcome it, I love seeing some like Ashin and Rave opening a gateway to let force eldritch creatures through that at the time several of the stronger force masters teamed up to fight back. Or Vulps who uses his real life schooling to mak his use of alter environment technically detailed and powerful. Spencer using a force meld to combine the energy from an event threads force users to fling a star destroyer into a wormhole and give the Lords of the Fringe an event star destroyer. When you write it nice and fun yes it might not be for everyone. Some people do love their grounded style and that can be fun.... but there is something to be said for the over the top. The absurdity can feel incredibly pulp style which helped inspire among other things star wars itself so the genre fits in there.

 

[Alan]

I don't know how to tag or quote on my phone lol hopefully Alan will know this is a reply to their last post.

For me it is an affect of watching and experiencing Disney SW for the past decade. Growing up we wondered things like how would the ro2 Sith would look like before the prequel films and then they gave us the Acolyte. We wondered what a force maelstrom would be like on the big screen and then they gave us ep9.

It's fatigue basically. I am lucky enough to experience things like Andor and then unlucky enough to have seen Acolyte. In role-playing I prefer to read and interact with characters who are grounded. Someone who doesn't feel unbeatable or is written to not to be trifled with. Stuff like this.

It feeds into the entire dynamic of writing op force powers. I don't personally want to read an entire armada having to deal with a force horror amplified by a Sith meditation spare etc. I want ROTS level opera in this type of scenario. I think most people do as well.

also

what happened to lightsaber duels as a way to measure jedi vs sith power? where dey go