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Who is your character most like?

Was chatting in the Diarchy chat yesterday with some others about who our characters were most like, and interestingly enough, both Diarch Reign Diarch Reign and I got the same historical figure as our number one matches (for different reasons).

So which historical figure/s is your character most like?

This is Caelan's list from ChatGPT:

  • Marcus Aurelius (Roman Emperor, 161–180 CE)
    • Philosopher-king, deeply Stoic, balancing rulership with moral philosophy.
    • Like Caelan, he had to defend borders while grappling with the weakness of institutions around him.
    • His Meditations mirror the kind of reflective, almost Jedi-like mindset Caelan carries.
  • King Alfred the Great (England, 9th century)
    • Defender of his kingdom against Viking invasions, reorganized law, culture, and education.
    • He was a "guardian king," more defensive than expansionist — much like Caelan seeing Lazerian IV as a cultural hearth that must endure.
  • Constantine the Great (Roman Emperor, early 4th century)
    • Bridged secular and religious authority, legitimizing Christianity while wielding imperial power.
    • Caelan's blending of Jedi and kingship has a similar flavor — wielding both spiritual and temporal legitimacy.
  • King David (Biblical Israel)
    • Warrior-poet king who united his people, had moral and spiritual authority, but also struggled with human failings.
    • David's psalms and his tension between power and piety echo Caelan's ethos as both king and Force-wielder.
  • Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor, 8th–9th century)
    • Builder of culture and unifier of realms, blending politics with spiritual patronage.
    • Larger-than-life aura, but more focused on stewardship than mere conquest.
 
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The nice Vanagor died, now you get me.
1. Leonidas of Sparta

Why: Like Connel, Leonidas stood in the face of overwhelming odds (Thermopylae vs. Sith/Empire). He knew the cost would likely be his life, yet his defiance carried symbolic weight and inspired future generations.

Parallels: Shield-bearing warrior, embodiment of duty, tactical brilliance, willingness to fight to the last for something greater than himself.



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2. Miyamoto Musashi

Why: Musashi was a master of the sword who paired unmatched martial skill with strategy and philosophy. Connel’s duality—saber mastery mixed with disciplined silence and psychological warfare—feels very Musashi-like.

Parallels: Wandering warrior-philosopher, precise efficiency, belief that combat is as much mental as physical.



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3. Boudica, Warrior Queen of the Iceni

Why: Though not an exact match in role, Boudica shares Connel’s ferocity against an overwhelming empire, fueled by personal loss. Her rage at Rome’s atrocities mirrors Connel’s burning anger at the Sith and Empire, which he must temper with discipline.

Parallels: Vengeance transmuted into resistance, symbolic rebellion, inspiring others through personal fire.



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4. William Wallace

Why: The Scottish freedom fighter embodies the “outsider turned leader of shadows,” channeling fury into guerrilla-style resistance. Wallace also shares the dual traits of inspirational speeches and haunting silence when needed.

Parallels: Leading a smaller force against tyranny, larger-than-life reputation, mythic legacy.



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5. The Archetype of the “Shadow Guardian” (Batman / Snake Eyes–style lineage)

Why: Though not historical, the “silent protector who weaponizes fear” has roots in countless ancient traditions: the masked warriors of feudal Japan, the desert raiders of Bedouin myth, and even biblical judges like Gideon. Connel feels like a continuation of this lineage.

Parallels: Psychological intimidation, silence as a weapon, balance of wrath and justice.

Me: Batman? Okay...

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6. Cincinnatus

Why: A Roman statesman and general who embodied duty over ambition. Connel’s weight of legacy and his refusal to wield power for its own sake echoes Cincinnatus, who returned to his farm after saving Rome.

Parallels: Humility, service to the cause over self, reluctant but unshakable leadership.



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✅ In summary:
Connel is most like a fusion of Leonidas’ defiance, Musashi’s mastery, Wallace’s resistance, and Cincinnatus’ humility—a shield-bearing warrior-philosopher who fights with fury but serves with restraint. He stands as a figure who coul
d be feared as a weapon but chooses instead to be a guardian.

If we distill all the parallels into one closest match, Connel Vanagor is most like Leonidas of Sparta.

Here’s why:

The Shield-Bearer: Leonidas was defined not by conquest but by holding the line, shield in hand, for something greater than himself. That image mirrors Connel’s shield and lightsaber stance perfectly.

Defiance Against the Impossible: Both stood against overwhelming empires (Persia for Leonidas, Sith/Empire for Connel), knowing the fight might cost their lives, yet refusing to yield.

Symbol Over Soldier: Leonidas’ stand became legend, inspiring future resistance. Connel is written in that same mythic way—his silence, his fury, and his tactics aren’t just survival, they’re statements.

Discipline Over Rage: Leonidas tempered Spartan ferocity with control and strategy. Connel mirrors this balance: fury at the Sith, but honed into tactical efficiency.


So while he carries pieces of Musashi, Wallace, and others, his core essence is Leonidas: the shield-bearing guardian whose defiance becomes legend.


ChatGPT likes Connel, I guess
 
  • Toussaint Louverture – born into oppression, self-made leader, rebel against empire.
  • Miyamoto Musashi – lone wolf warrior, unorthodox style, survival over tradition.
  • Joan of Arc – prophecy-bearer, symbol of destiny, young yet terrifyingly significant.
  • Che Guevara – restless defiance, reckless conviction, fights for a cause larger than himself.
  • Alexander Hamilton – outsider who forced his way into history by sheer will and audacity.
 
The nice Vanagor died, now you get me.
  • Toussaint Louverture – born into oppression, self-made leader, rebel against empire.
  • Miyamoto Musashi – lone wolf warrior, unorthodox style, survival over tradition.
  • Joan of Arc – prophecy-bearer, symbol of destiny, young yet terrifyingly significant.
  • Che Guevara – restless defiance, reckless conviction, fights for a cause larger than himself.
  • Alexander Hamilton – outsider who forced his way into history by sheer will and audacity.
I DO get a "Toussaint" vibe!
 
I don't know whether to be upset or not:


Here's the closest real-world "composite" for Natasi Fortan, based on how you write her: a stateswoman who blends aristocratic ceremony with ruthless competence, treats institutions like heirlooms to be maintained, and defaults to order, continuity, and personal duty over warmth.


Most resonant parallels (and what each maps to):


  • Elizabeth II (stoic constitutional monarch)
    • The cool, ritualized public persona; scrupulous propriety; the sense that duty is the personality. Your dispatch boxes, balcony moments, and carefully rationed smiles feel very Windsor.
  • Margaret Thatcher (centralizing conviction politician)
    • "If no one else can be trusted, I'll do it myself." The instinct to pull authority upward in crises; the steeliness, stamina, and comfort making lonely, high-stakes calls.
  • Charles de Gaulle (founder/renewer of state institutions)
    • The self-conscious relationship to history; stepping in personally to stabilize a regime; using grandeur and ceremony to legitimize continuity during/after national trauma.
  • Catherine the Great (enlightened autocrat)
    • Cultivated courtliness overlaying hard power; the idea of "civilizing" reform from the top down; a ruler who collects institutions the way others collect art.
  • Lee Kuan Yew (order-first, technocratic nation-builder)
    • The belief that stability and competence trump sentiment; a paternal (maternal) posture toward citizens; a readiness to trade personal warmth for results.
  • Otto von Bismarck (Realpolitik architect)
    • Cabinet as chessboard; alliances of convenience; the pragmatic, unsentimental statecraft beneath the brocade.

Why it's a composite, not a single match:
Natasi carries Windsor public restraint, Thatcherite centralization, Gaullist institution-building, Catherinian court culture, LKY technocracy, and Bismarckian pragmatism—all in one. She isn't a populist caudillo or a pure democrat; she's an aristocratic modernizer who uses pageantry to sanctify policy, and policy to justify the pageantry.


One-line summary:
Natasi Fortan most resembles a fusion of Elizabeth II's ceremonial poise and sense of duty with Thatcher's centralizing will, de Gaulle's state-restoring gravitas, and Catherine the Great's polished, top-down reform—tempered by Lee Kuan Yew's order-first technocracy and Bismarck's Realpolitik.
 
I don't know whether to be upset or not:


Here's the closest real-world "composite" for Natasi Fortan, based on how you write her: a stateswoman who blends aristocratic ceremony with ruthless competence, treats institutions like heirlooms to be maintained, and defaults to order, continuity, and personal duty over warmth.


Most resonant parallels (and what each maps to):


  • Elizabeth II (stoic constitutional monarch)
    • The cool, ritualized public persona; scrupulous propriety; the sense that duty is the personality. Your dispatch boxes, balcony moments, and carefully rationed smiles feel very Windsor.
  • Margaret Thatcher (centralizing conviction politician)
    • "If no one else can be trusted, I'll do it myself." The instinct to pull authority upward in crises; the steeliness, stamina, and comfort making lonely, high-stakes calls.
  • Charles de Gaulle (founder/renewer of state institutions)
    • The self-conscious relationship to history; stepping in personally to stabilize a regime; using grandeur and ceremony to legitimize continuity during/after national trauma.
  • Catherine the Great (enlightened autocrat)
    • Cultivated courtliness overlaying hard power; the idea of "civilizing" reform from the top down; a ruler who collects institutions the way others collect art.
  • Lee Kuan Yew (order-first, technocratic nation-builder)
    • The belief that stability and competence trump sentiment; a paternal (maternal) posture toward citizens; a readiness to trade personal warmth for results.
  • Otto von Bismarck (Realpolitik architect)
    • Cabinet as chessboard; alliances of convenience; the pragmatic, unsentimental statecraft beneath the brocade.

Why it's a composite, not a single match:
Natasi carries Windsor public restraint, Thatcherite centralization, Gaullist institution-building, Catherinian court culture, LKY technocracy, and Bismarckian pragmatism—all in one. She isn't a populist caudillo or a pure democrat; she's an aristocratic modernizer who uses pageantry to sanctify policy, and policy to justify the pageantry.


One-line summary:
Natasi Fortan most resembles a fusion of Elizabeth II's ceremonial poise and sense of duty with Thatcher's centralizing will, de Gaulle's state-restoring gravitas, and Catherine the Great's polished, top-down reform—tempered by Lee Kuan Yew's order-first technocracy and Bismarck's Realpolitik.
I feel it. Definitely fits her.
 
Straight from ChatGPT:

Ivalyn Yvarro reads like a composite of several historical figures — women of statecraft, optics, and long games — but here are a few that align strongly with her voice, values, and vision:




Empress Theodora (Byzantine Empire)


  • Why she fits: Like Ivalyn, Theodora began from a complicated background but rose to wield immense influence behind the throne. She was known for:
    • Her eloquence, particularly in court settings.
    • Defending her people during crisis (cf. Nika Riots).
    • Walking the line between imperial ideology and reform.
  • Parallel: Theodora preserved the Empire's core ideology while reshaping how women and the disenfranchised were seen — much like Ivalyn maintains First Order purity while rebranding it through Commonwealth aesthetics.



Catherine de' Medici (France)


  • Why she fits: A master of optics and survival, especially as a foreign-born queen in a volatile kingdom. She:
    • Orchestrated court alliances, festivals, and appearances while her real power moved behind the scenes.
    • Leveraged art, spectacle, and diplomacy to control the narrative.
  • Parallel: Ivalyn's Seoulight Spectrum and media domination mirror Catherine's use of masque balls and art to reassert control — all while purging threats in the background.



Queen Elizabeth I (England)


  • Why she fits: Elizabeth turned her reign into one of national identity, ruled unmarried for power's sake, and understood the value of theater in politics. She:
    • Walked the tightrope between Protestant/Catholic factions (as Ivalyn does with Sith/Commonwealth ideology).
    • Crafted a mythos around herself — the Virgin Queen, while tightly controlling imagery and allegiance.
  • Parallel: Ivalyn's political elegance and public performances evoke Elizabeth's strategy of "rule through presence."



Otto von Bismarck (Prussia/Germany) (Yes, a man, but ideologically close)


  • Why he fits: Bismarck orchestrated the unification of Germany under Prussian leadership with diplomacy, wars, and subversion — and made nationalism seem benevolent.
  • Parallel: Ivalyn's ultimate goal of reunifying First Order worlds under Commonwealth control — while projecting "stability" and "partnership" — is textbook Realpolitik. She's not a conqueror; she's the architect of destiny.



️ Summary Archetype:


"The Courtly Reformer Hidden in a Restorationist's Robes."
She is diplomacy's razor edge — warm in tone, ruthless in aim. Regal, calculated, and always ten steps ahead.



If you want a fictional comparison: Padmé Amidala fused with Tywin Lannister, but in a designer coat, with a dossier full of blackmail and a galaxy of media under her thumb.
 
LABOUR FOR THE EMPEROR AND THE CELESTIAL COURT
Was chatting in the Diarchy chat yesterday with some others about who our characters were most like, and interestingly enough, both Diarch Reign Diarch Reign and I got the same historical figure as our number one matches (for different reasons).

So which historical figure/s is your character most like?

As of now, Franceline remains mostly a blank slate. Depending on her development, she may diverge and display behaviours akin to those of the personalities listed below, but to that I would like to add a gigantic megaplynth of salt by stating that these people's actual beliefs and ideals may have been very different to those they publicly presented - and those that I may even know them for, personally. As for the bad guys, I don't give a damn, as they are either in an eternal void, or rotting in your punishment realm of choice.

As with all things when it comes to history, my reference points are what we know, and not the actual way they behaved, which may or may not be uncovered in the future as history as a field of study advances. Furthermore, I'd also like to add that it's my own biased view of these individuals, which may differ or end up differing from reality.

Net-positive for the galaxy and herself

- Harilaos Trikoupis

- Ayn Rand

- Friedrich Hayek

- Theodoros Kolokotronis

- Francis Joseph I

- Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher

- Eleonore Prochaska

- Laskarina Bouboulina

Net-negative for the galaxy and herself

- Jefferson Davis

- Hjalmar Schacht

- Khosrow II

- Cecil Rhodes

- Gaius Octavius

- Ibrahim Pasha

I leave it you to find out the how(s) and why(s), if you'd like.

Here's what ChatGPT spat out when I fed it her current sheet:

Rosie the Riveter (WWII icon of the female labor force) – Like Rosie, Franceline embodies industriousness, loyalty, and pride in labor, but pushed to a fanatical extreme. She doesn't just work for the machine; she is the machine.

Friedrich Krupp / "Captains of Industry" (Industrial Revolution magnates) – Her obsession with production, logistics, and engineering channels the mindset of 19th/early 20th century industrialists who saw empires built on steel and oil as extensions of their own bodies.

Rosa Luxemburg (Marxist revolutionary) – Not for her ideology but for her relentless energy and her contradictory compassion and ruthlessness. Franceline's relationship with her home planet mirrors Luxemburg's love/hate tension with industrialized society.

Alexandra Kollontai or Nadezhda Krupskaya (Soviet worker-intellectual figures) – She's a worker-intellectual hybrid: suspicious of bureaucracy, disdainful of academia, yet deeply technical and capable.

Albert Speer (#### Germany's Armaments Minister) – The "logistics genius" who thrived in an empire's war economy without being a front-line soldier. Franceline echoes this as a civilian contractor devoted to imperial order rather than political power.

Leni Riefenstahl (Propagandist-artist and true believer civilian) – Her fanaticism combined with technical mastery recalls the sort of "true believer" civilians who gave totalitarian regimes their power without ever holding a military rank.

Jeanette Rankin (first female member of the US Congress, pacifist and advocate for working-class rights) – A pioneering woman who balanced activism, hardship, and political resistance, embodying perseverance against social odds.

Harriet Tubman (abolitionist and conductor of the Underground Railroad) – A figure who risked everything to liberate others, demonstrating relentless dedication and self-sacrifice despite personal danger and physical hardship.

Florence Nightingale (pioneer of modern nursing and hospital reform) – An autodidact who revolutionized care and hygiene through practical knowledge and stubborn commitment, transforming a male-dominated field.

Marie Curie (physicist and chemist, double Nobel laureate) – A brilliant self-taught scientist who pushed through physical and social barriers, embodying dedication to knowledge and the betterment of humanity.


Harrowingly, the AI very wisely detected some solid equivalents for the evil outcomes, reading between the lines of technocratic thinking being abused to enable evil. Notably, I didn't specify for it to include evil or good people, just those she felt like the most.

Needless to say I've been left quite impressed by the language model, and I cannot wait to find out whether her fate in the galaxy turns her into a cautionary tale or an inspiring success.
 
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Oh my god I love these:

Dynastic/Political Parallels

  • Cleopatra VII (69–30 BCE)
    Like Cleopatra, Quinn wields charm, intelligence, and allure as political weapons. Both are young rulers tied to powerful dynasties, forced to balance personal desire with political survival. They cultivate powerful allies and lovers but always with an eye toward strengthening their throne.
  • Empress Wu Zetian (624–705 CE)
    Wu rose in a patriarchal empire and became the only woman in Chinese history to rule as emperor. She was both ruthless and brilliant, reshaping the court and bureaucracy in her favor. Quinn's ambitions for the Dark Council echo Wu's ability to turn vulnerability (being underestimated) into an empire-spanning advantage.

Romantic/Tragic Parallels

  • Mary, Queen of Scots (1542–1587)
    Mary was politically naïve at times, drawn into entangling alliances and romances that destabilized her rule. Quinn's youthful passion and tendency to let her heart compromise her strategic footing are very reminiscent of Mary's tragic path.
  • Marie Antoinette (1755–1793)
    Though often misrepresented in history, Marie Antoinette was a young queen caught in a storm of politics, luxury, and personal scandal. The perception of vanity, indulgence, and her position as a symbol of a dynasty's decline mirrors Quinn's precarious balancing act as "the Lost Princess."

Mythic/Philosophical Parallels

  • Alexander the Great (356–323 BCE) — if filtered through tragedy.
    Alexander's drive for greatness, his deep bonds with companions and lovers, and his meteoric rise combined with a sense of doomed youth all resonate with Quinn. Like Alexander, she wants to carve a destiny larger than life, yet her relationships and passions often burn as fiercely as her conquests.
 
Maverick from Top Gun. Cocky, but capable.

Han Solo, for the love of partying and the vice- Wedge is notorious for his love of drugs, partying.

Historically, Manfred von Richthofen, and also Major Richard Bong.

This is what Chat GPT had to say about it though,

Historical analogues


Here are historical figures who mirror some of his traits—the daring pilot turned commander, the bold but sometimes reckless leader, someone with strong moral convictions but willing to break norms.


FigureSimilaritiesKey Differences / Context
Erich Hartmann (WWII's top fighter ace)Exceptional pilot skill, bravery, willingness to take personal risk, famous among his peers, takes leadership responsibility.Hartmann fought for causes more rigidly defined; Draav is fictional in a galactic war with more freedom to be "chaotic"; also Draav seems more emotionally volatile.
Robin Olds (U.S. Air Force, Vietnam/WWII eras)Fierce, charismatic fighter pilot, rebel within ranks, mixed love-hate with discipline, someone respected for results more than obedience.Draav is more fictionalized, more extreme in "violent/unyielding" traits; Olds had strong manners of military community, patriotism.
Submarine/skipper captains / aviation commanders like Douglas Bader — people who flew despite setbacks, who pushed themselves and their subordinates to perform above expectations.The sense of endurance, of leadership under pressure, inspiring subordinates, sometimes reckless.Draav's setting is sci-fi; also his level of recklessness might be more dramatic than most historical commanders would permit.


Fictional characters he resembles


Here are some characters from fiction who are similar in various ways:


CharacterSimilaritiesDifferences / Unique Aspects
Wedge Antilles (Star Wars)Ace pilot, loyal, brave, command-capable, often in the thick of things. Draav shares the "pilot who can lead" archetype.Wedge Antilles tends to be more steady, not as extreme in recklessness/violence. Draav seems more willing to push rules, more gritty emotionally.
Captain John "Viper" Mitchell / Mike "Viper" Metcalf (Top Gun)Risk-taker, hotshot pilot, bold, with a strong sense of duty and competitiveness.Draav is more hardened; also Draav has seen heavier trauma, more command responsibility.
Han Solo (Star Wars)Bold, roguish, rebellious, sometimes reckless, but with a moral core and loyalty.Draav is more military-structured; Han is more smuggler-rogue; Draav seems more serious and duty-driven.
Roy Fokker (Macross / Robotech) or similar "ace‐mentor pilots"Experienced pilots who lead by example, take risks, shoulder burden of responsibility.Draav's personality is grittier, less mentor-wise and more combat hardened.
Mike Ironside-type military leaders / Rogue Squadron book protagonistsThe trope of the ace pilot who does what's needed, often against odds, sometimes bending orders.Draav has more rage and perhaps more willingness to be unorthodox or even ruthless.
 

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