Updated Republic holdings?

[Wil Cindercurser]

Does anybody know them? I am curious.

 

[Jorus Merrill]

http://starwarsrp.net/page/articles.html/_/map/

?

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Jorus Merrill"]

Actually, even the map is wrong now as your cloud got split.

[member="Wil Cindercurser"]

Current holdsings of the republic is everything on the map, except what is west of Manaan, Sevtok, Alderan, and Coruscant. Use those four locations to extend the current arm of the Sith and everything east of that arm and north is still Republic. Bilbringi is the new capital because the republic were smart enough for once to switch capitals before the cloud got cut.

 

[Velok the Younger]

as your cloud got split.

The Manaan invasion didn't split it, and the Sev Tok dominion was an experiment to see if the 'or any other means' in the rules could be exploited as a loophole. An official cloudbreak hasn't happened yet. Bilbringi isn't the new capital, as it was requested without faction admin approval.

 

[Wil Cindercurser]

Interesting.... It's just something I'm wondering about so I can work it into IC

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Seren Ordavo"]

The Sev Tok Dominion was won though, the Republic has effectively lost either the East or west half of their cloud.

 

[Wil Cindercurser]

Basically I wanna know what's going to happen to my homeplanet

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Wil Cindercurser"]

Let me find it on the map quick

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Wil Cindercurser"]

If anaxes stays the Capital, asssuming the cloudbreak happens which it should, you are still a republic held planet. If the capital is moved to Bilbringi, you are not. This is all assuming the cloudbreak happens like it should.

 

[Velok the Younger]

[member="Seren Ordavo"]

The Sev Tok Dominion was won though, the Republic has effectively lost either the East or west half of their cloud.

Sev Tok was an attempt to see if the map update would accept a dominion as a means of cloudbreaking, after several successful invasions, even though invasions are the only specifically enumerated way to change territory. Nobody but Tef knows whether Tef will accept that, but I strongly doubt it; this also came up last year when the Republic was crushing the Sith Empire. So far as I'm aware, no cloudbreak has been approved based on the Sev Tok dominion; it was run on pure speculation.

 

[Aithne Charr]

... What? The rules about cloudbreaking stated that this works this way, and there is no other avenue for the Sith to come in from with this dominion. There is no speculation at what happens unless Tef denies the Dominion ever happened, which would only by the rules, be possible if the posts in it weren't quality posts. And they all were... i have no idea what you even are trying to reason. The Republic karked up lol

Edit: From the rules

. If a Major Faction's Influence Cloud is completely severed into two or more smaller clouds by an Invasion or any other method, the Major Faction loses the cloud(s) furthest away from it's Capital Planet and only retains the cloud it's Capital Planet resides in.

 

[Velok the Younger]

Dominions have never, ever been used to cut off other factions' territory before. The supposition that 'or any other method' could refer to a dominion is just that -- a supposition, a guess. Whether it'll be allowed is entirely up in the air.

 

[Aithne Charr]

Any means anything. It doesn't say, "Possible other means." It says ANY.... you can't really think that you guys have a chance to save your cloud with how much little support there alread is and the fact all the actual Jedi past Corvus and a few others have either left to be a SJ or A Ession. The Republic failed and self destructed.

 

[Ellie Mors]

Any means anything. It doesn't say, "Possible other means." It says ANY.... you can't really think that you guys have a chance to save your cloud with how much little support there alread is and the fact all the actual Jedi past Corvus and a few others have either left to be a SJ or A Ession. The Republic failed and self destructed.

Slander on the part of a faction is entirely unnecessary here. Dominions do not break through influence clouds, the dominion would, or at least normally should, require a +50 post per hex until the empty space has been achieved in order to reach that point.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Darth Vitium"]

Then someone needs to edit the Rules, because it does not specify this.

 

[Matsu Ike]

You're are both pretty and right. Yes the rules say any other means but no one knows for certain. Much like last year the cloud sharing was the big thing but only Tef knows if it will happen or not. assuming either way for right now is not going to do much.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Darth Vitium"]

Then someone needs to edit the Rules, because it does not specify this.

There have been various points on the map that have been shared between two factions, and there are portions that are still shared. The only way to break influence in all past precedents have been invasions.

 

[Ellie Mors]

I am fairly certain that there was a topic on this some months ago as well, where this same issue was addressed.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Darth Vitium"]

Err... i think thats just the grid and the SJO's color scheme that makes it appear like they are sharing the area, i don't think they actually are... plus why would IC two nations at war share influence over a place?

 

[Wil Cindercurser]

So Cularin is... fine?

Or is this subject still being discussed by the higher ups?