Discussion The Anti-Force?

[Selrik Lorcas]

What's everyone's opinion on the Anti-Force?

I've seen a couple of people utilizing it, but there's not really a lot of information to go on regarding it outside of Waru's use of it. For those unaware, Waru used it to fuel himself to return to his own universe, and doing so killed the people involved as it drained them of their life force. As such, the only known usage is an auto-hit and auto-kill for those whom it is used on. There is no known defense against this as the purpose of the Anti-Force is the destruction of the Force.

I am personally of the opinion that it's an ability that shouldn't be utilized by anyone, primarily because the use of it implies an auto-hit/auto-kill by the nature of what it is (also the fact that unless you're from Waru's universe, you can't have the anti-Force as it doesn't naturally existing in the main universe). I would personally not like it to be allowed on Chaos (quite frankly, I find the concept of the Anti-Force to have been a dumb one, but we can't unmake it), but I understand not wanting to impede people's writing.

I do think the people utilizing it should approach it with absolute caution and really consider the effects the use of it has on those writing with them, and whether those people get enjoyment out of writing with someone who utilizes that ability. Having dealt with the repercussions of its use in an invasion, I can safely say, it's not something that most enjoy.

 

[Miasmær]

I didn't even know the anti-force was a thing ngl

 

[Kitter Bitters]

I think it’s a silly concept and don’t personally care for it but I definitely do NOT support gate keeping if someone wants to write and have fun with it.

It’s just like everything else. Don’t power game and be a douche. Pretty much any power can be a problem if a writer doesn’t follow that rule. No reason to split hairs. Just behave

 

[Madalena Antares]

Selrik Lorcas Haven't encountered it IC yet so hard to say. But Madalena is from another dimension too if you ever wanna play together. She can also rip portals between dimensions for limited amounts of time and without knowing whether it'll work or not 99% of the time.

 

[Selrik Lorcas]

I didn't even know the anti-force was a thing ngl

It was created in an old book (Expanded Universe) called The Crystal Star.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Not real.

 

[Jerec Asyr]

The Crystal Star is a good old book, have read it and referred back to it many times, shared screenshots with people etc, and the Anti-Force isn't like some version of the Anti-Life Equation or whatever. It's literally just the version of the Force that's native to another universe.

When it's directed against the Force (writ large, including individuals' life force) they cancel each other out like matter and antimatter, and release energy that can be used by those involved.

In the book it is explicitly not a trump card or an instakill. Its only user uses it to, with a couple extra steps, drain life on contact similar to vanilla Force Drain but way weaker than many Force Drain sources.

It's weird flavor. Enjoy.

 

[Jerec Asyr]

You people are gonna get me writing a Waru to see it done right, I swear to hell. It's Fallanassi all over again.

 

[Quinn Varanin]

Like what Jerec said. Its not meant to be something that's all powerful. At the end of the day its how its used and how it's formulated and written. In the book, its not a devastating power, what the issue is there's not a lot of material for it, so its left to interpretation.

The main issue is use and its explanation. When the Anti-Force annihilate the Force, it creates energy. It does not create more Force and it does not create more Anti-Force.

At its base its matter vs anti-matter.

I've seen the concept used quite beautifully and very tame in roleplay. At the end of the day, just understanding what it is conceptually in the source material it allows you to explain and properly apply the concept to RP.

 

[Selrik Lorcas]

Like what Jerec said. Its not meant to be something that's all powerful. At the end of the day its how its used and how it's formulated and written. In the book, its not a devastating power, what the issue is there's not a lot of material for it, so its left to interpretation.

The main issue is use and its explanation. When the Anti-Force annihilate the Force, it creates energy. It does not create more Force and it does not create more Anti-Force.

At its base its matter vs anti-matter.

I've seen the concept used quite beautifully and very tame in roleplay. At the end of the day, just understanding what it is conceptually in the source material it allows you to explain and properly apply the concept to RP.

Key words being annihilate the Force to create energy, and not more Force/Anti-Force.

 

[Tegan Starfall]

So basically its a version of the force that can act like dispell against the force with by product being energy?

I have never used anti-force but it reminds me of the old debates of weather Magick (Dathomiri) and the force were the same thing way back when dathomir witches had vague descriptions and history. Same with the Dark (sorcerers of Rhand). Just different ways of utilizing the force.

 

[Kaneha Dalsa]

Onrai

 

[Vazela]

Every time I have come up against it the other writer has come across as powergamey which I didn't like whatsoever.

 

[Braith Achlys]

I don't see a problem with it, personally, it just isn't anything more special in its interaction with the force than a positron interacting with an electron.

 

[Adrikobe Kellrule]

It sucks and I hate it