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Invasion of Carida: June 20

sabrina

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[member="Darth Shara"] next time, can we just have one big fleet. One admiral and others just take over set parts of it subject to admiral discretion. So we can avoid a lot of this?
 

Darth Armyss

Nobleman, Sith, and Womanizer
[member="Daella Apparine"]

Not asked for by either side, but nonetheless favorable to the Republic.

Also, I may or may not be available over the next few days (more specifically between tomorrow and the afternoon of the 10th), because I'll be somewhere where wi-fi most likely won't be available. However, I can access the site and post via my phone, so it'll be a question of cell phone reception more than anything else.
 

Darth Naomi

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[member="sabrina"] not for me. Just pointless arguing without anything to backup the claims. If you wanted to be constructive, you should have established your basis: What is Sith, what is Evil. Compared them, if a meaning was found where all Sith were deemed evil, then you would be wrong, Sabrina. Fortunately for you, that is not possible. Nothing is inherently evil and evil itself is highly dependend on a point of view and is mostly tied in with morality, which is more slippery than an eel, and establishing morality would be worth completely separate discussion.
 

sabrina

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[member="Darth Naomi"] I think sith are not inherently evil, I do think some notable sith do evil things. Then again so does every one in power. Plus I did not see that as an argument

Edit: sorry if it annoyed you though
 

Darth Armyss

Nobleman, Sith, and Womanizer
[member="Darth Naomi"]

Another point one should address is how morality is also a relative concept. What may be beneficial to one faction isn't to another. The common justification for supporting an action of this sort is representing the views of a majority, or protecting those of a minority.
 

Darth Naomi

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Darth Naomi said:
Nothing is inherently evil and evil itself is highly dependend on a point of view and is mostly tied in with morality, which is more slippery than an eel, and establishing morality would be worth completely separate discussion.
That is me addressing that, although in different words, [member="Albrecht Tagge"]
 

Darth Armyss

Nobleman, Sith, and Womanizer
[member="Darth Naomi"]

Fair enough, although I suppose it's more than that. True, the Sith are inherently "evil" in the canon, but largely because it's viewed through the protagonists' point of view, although there's also the fact that the Sith ideology typically promotes selfish behavior, which is usually perceived as ambiguous at the best of times. A few exceptions existed though, most notably Darth Vader (who genuinely believed that through his actions he was doing what was best for the Galaxy by enforcing order).

This allows me to better explain this to [member="sabrina"] :

Basically, most Sith are driven by self-interest, and the problem with giving that kind of power to any psychopath who has the potential is that, inevitably, they'll use it for destructive purposes. The idea of personal freedom among force users championed by General Xendor when he founded the Legions of Lettow, forerunner to the Sith and its various spinoffs, was ultimately a bit too optimistic and naïve, and didn't take into account the fact just because one can have that kind of power doesn't mean that they should.

This is why there's a single Dark Lord as head of the order: to focus the order's efforts into something more constructive for the greater good of the Order and its adherents.
 

sabrina

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If your doing some thing for greater good that is not necessarily evil. Also genocide is ultimately not in your self interest as you will reap it back. As your enemy will hate you, and others will fear you. Thus as code says your giving them strength to beat you in the end. [member="Albrecht Tagge"]
 

Darth Armyss

Nobleman, Sith, and Womanizer
[member="sabrina"]

That depends on how you define the greater good, and genocide can work in your favor, but only if you completely annihilate your target and any sympathizers to their cause. This inspires a sort of terror that cannot be countered by mere hatred, the ideal outcome of application of the Tarkin Doctrine. Unfortunately, this is a rather difficult proposition to accomplish, although it worked a few times in the EU (the Rakata's war against the Kwa, for example, but that was largely because of their monopoly on hyperdrives at the time, which thus made it next to impossible for their targets to escape destruction, even with Infinity Gates at their disposal).
 

Darth Armyss

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Agreed.

Back on topic.


So it seems that there was some momentary confusion about "replacements", but that seems to have resolved itself.
 

sabrina

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I think so popo not replied yet, but could nudge him

side note: krayt industries has know been approved, does anyone quick look at the three ships ready to go in pics?
 

Darth Naomi

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Link What now? It would seem they just don't want to play nice, it's starting to get to me. Alicia didn't even consider herself a fleeter (I assume it's why she only brought 4 ships), neither did we I take it, since she wasn't put up here as a fleeter. But they won't let me subtract her ship worth from mine. Can I just replace Mike, if he has no ships at all or will we consider everyone with a fighter a fleeter?
 

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