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Discussion Are the Jedi Really the Good Guys?

Kitter Bitters

Keeper of Bitter Tales from the Galaxy
I do not mean OUR Jedi here on Chaos so please don’t call anybody out. I mean the Jedi we see in the films, shows, books etc.

When I watched the original trilogy I thought they were. The prequels make it a little more messy but after watching the Acolyte I am very confused.

Discuss
 
Emberlene's Daughter, The Jedi Generalist
The Acolyte isn't really a good metric to measure any of it. The lead writer said it was made to cast the jedi as villains and the darkside as good.

Are the jedi perfect no but story wise Giovanni has more consistency and he is just the team rocket boss trying to stop and recapturre the dangerous mewtwo.

Creates team rocket
steals sliph scope to find ghost to combat psychic type
breaks into silph corp to get masterball
 

Laphisto

High Commander of the Lilaste Order
good an evil is subjective. The dark side or the light side are just titles slapped onto the force; the light side can be used for evil just as much as it can for good, and vice versa. i do believe it depends on how you look at it and from what perspective. it all depends on how its used.
 
If you need a label for me, then you don't know me
The only person worth talking to is George Lucas (maybe Zahn, or Filoni) the sequel trilogy, Acolyte, they can be attributed to two words (imo) Kathleen Kennedy.

My opinion is similar to Laphisto attributes how Caltin and now Connel look at the Force "It's the choices we make that make us who we are"
 
It depends on your point of view in my opinion. It's far easier for an individual to be a "good guy" as opposed to an entire group. It's not impossible to find a "bad" Jedi, with Pong Krell being a perfect example in my eyes, but on average, you are more likely to have a canonical Jedi that leans towards being "good", like Obi-Wan. Even then though, you could argue that there are some Jedi who can be considered morally right but not be a "good guy", with Mace as an example.

I will admit though, I'm not super up to date with modern star wars anymore so maybe things have changed.
 
When it comes to the force and force users. My opinion is both the Jedi and Sith are misguided. Since we are strictly talking Jedi i'll limit it to that.

The simplest answer to your question is yes they are the good guys, however there are issues.

Jedi are intended to be custodians of the force, defensive, and restrained. But time and again we see Jedi lead armies, prop up a corruption filled republic. They hold prophecy and tradition above common sense sometimes, they taught Jedi to suppress emotion when that in fact makes Jedi more susceptible to corruption and fall.

Are they good guys? Yes but not flawless, they tend to create as many problems as they solve.
 

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