Subspace...ships?

[Raziel]

So: http://starwarsrp.net/topic/74250-ghostwalker-subspace-drive/#entry1097953

This is kind of neat, but at the same time this is completely new tech with no canon basis. Bit of a game changer really which warrants some discussion I feel.

We know there are both hyperspace and subspace transceivers.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Subspace_transceiver

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperwave_transceiver

These were similar to subspace transceivers, but would send their signals through hyperspace, rather than realspace or subspace, giving them effectively unlimited range.[2] They were, however, limited to video and audio communication, but still very expensive for the everyday use of everyday citizens.[3]

Many planetary governments, large corporations, and wealthy individuals maintained private subspace transceivers. Because each radio had a range of up to several light years, governments used these units to connect local planets with a sector-wide communications grid. Although much more powerful than standard comlinks, subspace radios were not nearly as advanced or effective as the HoloNet. Most planets were integrated into local subspace networks that used transceivers aboard deep-space satellites to link dozens of worlds in an instantaneous and continuous flow of data. These networks normally handled news, sports, entertainment, and educational programming. Individuals and corporations purchased broadcast time for private messages, with fees running anywhere from one to twenty credits per ten seconds of transmission time.
Hundreds of subspace networks were scattered across the galaxy, so a message could theoretically be sent across the galaxy by bouncing it across multiple networks. While this process was much more affordable than the HoloNet, messages could be delayed for hours or days as they were routed through different networks. Because each network had different communication protocols, messages could be corrupted or lost, and so it was often cheaper and safer to send long-distance messages by courier ships.

S-threads:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/S-thread

S-threads were extremely small Hyperspace tunnels used to ferry communications waves through. Due to their incredibly small dimensions, it was virtually impossible to intercept communications through an S-thread; the only way to do so was to attach a listening device to the Hyperwave transceivers responsible for managing information through the S-threads.

So:

1. This is new
2. It has no canon basis
3. Hyperspace signals have unlimited range due to going through hyperspace
4. Subspace signals have range limited to a few lightyears
5. The properties of subspace and hyperspace are clearly very different.
6. Subspace signals go across the galaxy over hours or days rather than instantaneous
7. Subspace signals ARE faster than light
8. Subspace signals ARE orders of magnitude slower than hyperspace signals

Questions:

1. Do we even permit this?
2. Do we permit this with more dev? [100+ in my opinion]
3. Do we scale back the speeds and range of subspace travel significantly given the above?

 

[Laira Darkhold]

1. Interdictors don't fly against this
2. Neither do any warning systems. If used on Warships, even a small fleet, its open season for that fleet to drop out just outside atmosphere of a planet or on top of a defense fleet
3. I should point out a Ranger Transceiver could detect non-stealth ships flying with this unless they literally turned off all Comm-systems

I think it could be useful, and personally, I like the concept. To balance it

1. Make the ship replace its primary Hyperdrive (Putting it on fighters would force them to only use this, so short jumps from a mothership in system, bam raid, leave) It will also make the ship its installed on slow
2. Lower that Hyperdrive Rating to 20, slap a max range (Canon hyperdrives had ranges prior to the Empire) puts it at half the speed of the Class 10 back up Hyperdrive most capital ships would have.
3. 
   

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     [SIZE=14.6667px](-) Though the Ghostwalker technology is not common knowledge, eventually someone will realize that a network of ultra-high-powered subspace transmitters could cause severe turbulence and potentially force an early reversion, in a manner analogous to unreliable interdiction. The cost would be a significant localized scramble of all communications not involving the HoloNet or antiquated EM technology (e.g. radio, laser).[/SIZE]
     

   How does that work with a Subspace Jammer? IE Could a subspace Communication Jammer detect ships using this, as they are made to detect things travelling through subspace
   
4. 
   More Dev.
   

 

[ADM. Reshmar]

while no form of interdiction or detection exist I have ideas how to shut down the drive. I figure it has to work like an hyperdrive but in subspace not hyperspace. So making tech to counter this should be pretty easy.

 

[Darth Avida]

I have thoughts on this that I will post when I get home.

[member="Raziel"]

 

[Darth Avida]

So:

1. This is new
2. It has no canon basis
3. Hyperspace signals have unlimited range due to going through hyperspace
4. Subspace signals have range limited to a few lightyears
5. The properties of subspace and hyperspace are clearly very different.
6. Subspace signals go across the galaxy over hours or days rather than instantaneous
7. Subspace signals ARE faster than light
8. Subspace signals ARE orders of magnitude slower than hyperspace signals

Questions:

1. Do we even permit this?
2. Do we permit this with more dev? [100+ in my opinion]
3. Do we scale back the speeds and range of subspace travel significantly given the above?

1. Simple answer: Yes.
2. Much more development than provided, I think, and spent entirely on fleshing out what exactly subspace is for physical entities.
3. Yes. Subspace has greatly reduced transmission capabilities compared to the distance a hyperspace jump travels, by distance alone, so I would assume that it would be far, far, slower. In the sense that subspace is "larger" than realspace on the inside. 1 Parsec in Realspace could be like 30 in subspace, for example (simple example, not meant to be explained as such).