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Mechanical Assault Platform "Aegis" Sentry Unit

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Mechanical Assault Platform "Aegis" Sentry Unit

[SIZE=18pt][ OUT OF CHARACTER INFORMATION ][/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Canon Link: [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Primary Source: N/A[/SIZE]

[SIZE=18pt][ PRODUCTION INFORMATION ][/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Manufacturer: The GWS[/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Affiliation: The GWS[/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Model: MLD 29/1 Mechanical Assault Platform (M.A.P), Sentry and Standard Assault Unit "Aegis"[/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Modularity: [/SIZE]
    Paint can be changed to suit different environments

  • Weapon Loadouts can be changed to suit certain situations

    Handheld & Mounted


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[SIZE=9pt]Production: Mass-produced[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Material: [/SIZE]

  • Turadium-reinforced Hydraulic Systems

  • Turadium-Alusteel Alloy Exterior Hull Lining; Impact Gel and Thermal Gel Interior Reinforcement

  • Quadanium-Durasteel Alloy Hull Plating

  • Electrical Systems

[SIZE=18pt][ TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS ][/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Classification:: Mechanized, Standard Assault and Sentry Walker Unit[/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Role(s)[/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]: [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=9pt]Recon[/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Assault[/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]Sentry[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Size: [/SIZE]Small

  • Height - 15 Feet ( ~4.5 Meters)

  • Width - 7.5 Feet ( ~2.3 Meters)

  • Length - 6 Feet ( ~1.8 Meters)

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[SIZE=9pt]Weight: Light-Average[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Minimum Crew:[/SIZE]

  • 1x - Pilot

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[SIZE=9pt]Optimal Crew:[/SIZE]

  • [SIZE=9pt]1x - Pilot[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Propulsion: Bipedal Locomotion Propulsion System[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Speed: Average[/SIZE]

  • 50 Knots ( ~57.5 mph / ~92.6 kmh)

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[SIZE=9pt]Maneuverability: Very High[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=9pt]Armaments: Average [/SIZE]

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  • Handheld Armament
    [SIZE=10.5pt]1x - .50 Caliber, Quad-barreled Smootbore Repeating Machine Gun[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]____________ OR ____________[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=10.5pt]1x - .76 Caliber, Tri-barreled Smoothbore Automatic Gun[/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]____________ OR ____________[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=10.5pt]1x - 88 mm, Single-barreled Smoothbore Semi-automatic Gun[/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]____________ OR ____________[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=10.5pt]1x - .45 Caliber, Dual-barreled Smoothbore Automatic Assault Rifle Gun[/SIZE]
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Mounted Armament
  • 1x - Anti-Infantry and Anti-Air Rocket Launcher (Three Rockets per volley; can be launched individually)
[SIZE=9pt]____________ OR ____________[/SIZE]
  • 1x - Anti-Infantry Repeating Blaster
[SIZE=9pt]____________ OR ____________[/SIZE]

  • 1x - Smoke Grenade Launcher (Two grenades per volley, launched at same time)
[SIZE=9pt]____________ OR ____________[/SIZE]
  • 1x - Grenade Launcher (Two grenades per volley; launched at same time
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  • [SIZE=9pt]Defenses: Average[/SIZE]
    Military-grade, Dual Shield System

    Exterior Layer is a standard, military-issue and military-grade ray shield

  • Interior Layer is a standard, military-issue deflector shield

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Electro-shock Self Defensive Armor System (ESDAS)

  • Exterior hexagonal spots located on joints (knees, elbows) and the central control module allow for the creation of a conductive, self-defensive electrical field. This conductive electrical field is connected via each of the hexagonal spots through the use of internal conductive metals fused into the exterior hexagonal spots. When turned on, this electrical field springs and bounces between each hexagonal point taking a total of forty-five seconds before it is fully operational and covering the entire military unit. This creates, in essence, an electrical based field around the walker which will shock and zap at anything that comes close to it, protecting it from people who may climb onto it and anyone else who is within a circular, ten-foot squared area (~3 meters) around the walker.


[*][SIZE=9pt]Passenger Capacity: N/A[/SIZE]
[*]Cargo Capacity: N/A
[SIZE=18pt][ SPECIAL FEATURES ][/SIZE]
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Shock-absorbent Locomotion Leg Support (SLLS; Impact Gel + Thermal Gel Internal Reinforcement)

  • Can help the walker to traverse steep and rocky terrain with minimal damage received to its locomotive systems

  • Can help the walker withstand drops of over three-hundred feet

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Mechanical Hydraulic Locomotion System

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Ion-based Electrical Systems

  • Insulated Electrical Systems

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Ion-based Speed Enhancement System (ISES; Allows for increased speed for a short duration of time)

  • Located on the back of the walker

  • Two large ion thrusters located on the upper back

  • Two small ion thrusters located on the lower back

    Auto-cooling liquid nitrogen system


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Auto-cooling liquid nitrogen system (SLLS & ISES)

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Military-grade, Dual Shield System
  • Exterior Layer is a standard, military-issue and military-grade ray shield

  • Interior Layer is a standard, military-issue deflector shield

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Electro-shock Self Defensive Armor System (ESDAS)

  • Exterior hexagonal spots located on joints (knees, elbows) and the central control module allow for the creation of a conductive, self-defensive electrical field. This conductive electrical field is connected via each of the hexagonal spots through the use of internal conductive metals fused into the exterior hexagonal spots. When turned on, this electrical field springs and bounces between each hexagonal point taking a total of forty-five seconds before it is fully operational and covering the entire military unit. This creates, in essence, an electrical based field around the walker which will shock and zap at anything that comes close to it, protecting it from people who may climb onto it and anyone else who is within a circular, ten-foot squared area (~3 meters) around the walker.

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Gimballed Clawed Foot Joints

  • Allows for the coverage of rocky and troublesome terrain easily

[*]Military-grade Optical System Cameras
  • Night Vision, Thermal Vision, etc

[*]Radar (Default System)
[*]Life-form Radar (Toggleable)
[*]Thermal Radar (Toggleable)
[*]Military-grade GPS
[*]Military Grade Digital Computer System
  • Range Calibration System
  • Tracking System
  • Digital Readout

[*]Multi-directional Sensors & Multi-directional Combat Sensors
[*]Ion-scrambler anti-communication System - [X]
[*]Information recording and code-keyed retrieval/broadcast system - [X]
[*]Annunciator
[*]Voice Modulator
[*]Macromotion Monitor
[*]Voice-scrambler & Communications scrambler system
[*]Geo-mapping Software
[*]Advanced Military-grade, Long-ranged Communications System Array (Internally located; inside if command module)
  • Allows for communication and network connection with the active pilot over intense distances of over one-thousand miles (~one-thousand six-hundred and nine kilometers) to a maximum of five-thousands miles (~eight-thousand and forty-six kilometers)


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[SIZE=13.5pt][ Strengths ][/SIZE]

  • + | Nigh Unhackable Walker | +

  • + | Ion-shielded Electrical Systems allow resistance to EMP and ION weapons | +

  • + | Versatile Defensive System & Offensive Array | +
[SIZE=13.5pt][ Weaknesses ][/SIZE]

  • - | Without a pilot, the walker is far less effective as it will rely solely on a droid brain system to function and fight | -

  • - | When disabled, the walker is just a piece of metal, utterly defenseless | -

  • - | Defenses are crippled without shield and electrical field | -

  • - | Pilots can suffer neurological attacks when utilizing the neural and virtual reality technologies, leading to seizures and even deaths | -
[SIZE=18pt][ DESCRIPTION ][/SIZE]

  • The MLD 29/1 Mechanical Assault Platform (M.A.P) or just the Aegis is a multi-function assault and sentry walker for use by the GWS. The walker's frame is based on that of a standard humanoid, having the limb joints of arms and legs with full versatile movement to cover great distances and dangerous terrain quickly and effectively. Combining all self-created parts and pieces minus the needed imported raw materials and metals that have to be processed elsewhere, the Aegis is a fully 'native' technological feat and design created by the GWS, the first of its kind in very fact alone. After recent successes in the business world in the sale of weapons and armor to interested buyers and the multiple new investment opportunities that the private military organization has received, it has allowed them to try out and test more ambitious and experimental designs due to having such a wide array of monetary assets at their demand and leisure to use as they so see fit.

  • For protection, the walker makes uses of a multi-layered system for the basic idea of armor and hull plating. Chemical based protective gels such as thermal gel and impact gel help the armor to disperse excess heat energy and kinetic energy from enemy targets. Specifically, the high amount of thermal gel used in the armor process of the walker allows the suit to resist and brace effectively against thermal based weapons like those weapons that the Golden Company is so infamous for using and utilizing. This heat gel, which is located under each layer of armor, allows for the wide dispersal of any heat all across its surface to minimize heat-based damage and to negate most forms of intense heat that could possibly melt through metal. To help with this process of heat-energy dispersion and negation, the armor also makes use of a liquid nitrogen cooling system. This liquid nitrogen system not only acts as a system to help cool the walker's movements and electrical systems but also helps to mitigate solar-based weaponry damage and heat. When the combat sensors of the suit detect a high trace of heat in the thermal gel, liquid nitrogen will automatically be pumped through the walker's interior systems and between all armor plates to cool all systems of the Aegis down to a cooler temperature than is normal for room temperature, automatically countering solar-based weapons with both the dispersion of intense heat and the cooling of armor systems to create a temperature 'barrier' against the heat, forcing the heat upwards and out of the way of the walker.

  • Then there is the armor of the weapon, specifically the metals used. Most if not all metals used in the creation and armoring process of the Aegis are alloys. Now, these alloys could not be created in any of the GWS facilities. Their facilities are focused on weapon development and new experimental military designs, there is no available space or spare credits to be used for something menial such as metal processing and alloy making. So, of course, the creation of metal alloys was outsourced to other businesses and manufacturing plants. Once these alloys were created, they were then imported to GWS facilities and the creation process began. The exterior plating of the walker, especially the armor around the central command and control module, was focused on a blast-door alloy, lightsaber resistant metal. Although not fully resistant to lightsabers as those metals are hard to come by and overly expensive to manufacture and mine, instead an alternative was used. Though not as effective as say phrik or beskar, it still could slow and dampen the cutting power of lightsabers enough to make them not overly effective.

  • The electrical systems of the walker are shielded by an 'ion-shield.' This very ion shield helps to absorb most forms of EMP and Ion electrical interference that is given off by such weapons, rendering their effects on the electrical systems of the walker almost incorporeal and of little impact to the suit. The electrical systems of the Aegis utilize a complex, honey-comb hexagonal pattern of negatively and positively charged ions suspended within a gravitational field. This pattern of negatively and positively charge ions helps to counteract the ions and EMP waves given off by devices meant to disable most forms of electrical systems. The systems are normally active all of the time, however, when the ion shield receives enough 'damage,' this system will temporarily shut down for one minute, leaving the electrical system vulnerable to EMP's and Ion's.

  • The walker itself makes use of a unique feature in terms of user operation. Instead of there being a pilot located inside of the walker, they are instead located outside of the suit. Through the use of a neural interface system and a holographic virtual reality system, the pilot can effectively pilot the suit while being hundreds and even thousands of miles away from where the suit is. The pilot is equipped with a pair of hyper-realistic, virtual-reality equipment which will help put them into the 'eyes' of the walker unit, allowing them to see all that the walker does, in a full, unobstructed, 360-degree radius around themselves in every single direction. Within the equipped virtual reality equipment is a neural interface system as well that allows the pilot to fully link up to the walker on a precise neural network basis. Although unable to feel any of the pain that the walker 'feels' when it receives damage, they will have full locomotive and weapons control for the walker through the combined use of their person and the droid brains located within the central command module. When all equipment is equipped, the pilot will be placed within a harness style system that measures vitals, atop a slightly elevated, circular metal platform from which they will control the walker.
 

Huxy

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[member="Arekk"] | [member="Gir Quee"] | [member="John Locke"]
Permission for this to be moved to factory for judging.
 
This submission has brought to my attention as violating the mech rule. I tend to agree, especially given its illustration and this sentence.



Kraken Society said:
The walker's frame is based on that of a standard humanoid, having the limb joints of arms and legs with full versatile movement to cover great distances and dangerous terrain quickly and effectively.

This looks pretty close to the definition of a humanoid mech,with the exception that it doesn't talk about size:



Kraken Society said:
Size: Small Height - 15 Feet ( ~4.5 Meters) Width - 7.5 Feet ( ~2.3 Meters) Length - 6 Feet ( ~1.8 Meters)
This is pretty substantially larger than a person, otherwise an argument could maybe be made for power armor.

I see three options going forward for this:

1) Make it smaller and turn it into power armor
2) Turn it purely into a battle droid
3) Archive
 

Huxy

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[member="Gir Quee"]

If there was an issue with this submission, why would you approve it in the first place as it is "violating the mech rule?" The illustration acts as a guide to help people understand how it looks, it dosen't determine whatsoever if something counts as a mech.

How does this, in any effect, violate the factory ruling of what a 'Mech' is, please enlighten me. A mech can be a giant machine controlled by people, walkers are machines that are controlled by people, why do they not classify as a 'mech?' A mech, is a single-pilot, mechanized walker unit, at least, that is what people know and classify a mech as. Single pilot walkers do exist within Star Wars canon and are used widely across most, if not all canon organizations whether that be the Rebellion, the Empire, or the Republic. A walker classified as a: [Link]

A walker was any vehicle, usually military, that used legs as it's primary method of locomotion rather than the more common repulsors, wheels, or treads.
Speaking on the fact, mechs already exist in canon, grounding them in what classifies as being part of the 'Star Wars Universe.' While the mech featured takes a very unconventional and not realistic form, it is still classified, and now canonized as something which does exist within the Star Wars universe. This is a much more realistic and grounded idea to the notion of the currently canon Star Wars mechs as it it based off of the basic humanoid anatomy, at least in framing. A humanoid-esque walker would serve much better on the field of battle than that of an animal-esque walker because of overall functionality. Something like this would and easily could exist in the Star Wars universe, I myself could see 'mechs' such as these that are based on a more realistic, grounded, military-sensible design as existing within the Star Wars universe without question. To add on, it's not a foreign concept to compare battle-droids and walkers, the two could and most likely would go hand-in-hand when creating military weaponry .

This mechanical platform does not utilize a human pilot in the traditional sense. A human pilot will operate the suit from a distance via a subset of virtual reality mixed with the idea of a neural network system.

Kraken Society said:
Instead of there being a pilot located inside of the walker, they are instead located outside of the suit. Through the use of a neural interface system and a holographic virtual reality system, the pilot can effectively pilot the suit while being hundreds and even thousands of miles away from where the suit is. The pilot is equipped with a pair of hyper-realistic, virtual-reality equipment which will help put them into the 'eyes' of the walker unit, allowing them to see all that the walker does, in a full, unobstructed, 360-degree radius around themselves in every single direction. Within the equipped virtual reality equipment is a neural interface system as well that allows the pilot to fully link up to the walker on a precise neural network basis.
While the walker can be operated by a single pilot, it doesn't need to be operated by a single pilot to fully function. The walker can also be controlled by a droid brain, albeit at lessened efficiency, though with fewer mistakes than it's human counterpart, evening the two sides out.

As for the whole size debacle, the size doesn't matter for walkers, no matter what shape the walker takes.
 
[member="Kraken Society"], this was a mass-approved submission, meaning that no-one looked at it before it was approved. It's a reactive system based on reports and complaints rather than the old proactive system of traditionally judging that the old Factory used. That's how this new system works with monthly approvals.

I have provided guidance on our ideas of what is and isn't a mech in this thread. Please follow that advice along with the guidance I have already provided you in this thread.
 

Huxy

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[member="Gir Quee"]

I'll repeat again, this is not a mech. A mech is a single-piloted, fully enclosed machine on all sides, something which this is not. Though it takes a bipedal design, it still very much fits in line with your current ruling regarding such things.


Yes, mechs are allowed, but they are only allowed in the context of what a Star Wars mech already is. When people try to introduce mech technology that doesn't already neatly fit into the existing canon lore, we run into problems.
[Link] The goal of a writing board is to offer creativity, to allow people to create new things that haven't existed beforehand. This very same principle applies to these 'mechs' as you call them as well. Just because there is no canonical reference or ground for them currently doesn't mean whatsoever that they do not fit the 'Star Wars Aesthetic.' Hell, we have a Stealth Super Star Destroyer on site and droids shaped like hell-drakes from Warhammer 40k, we have stuff inspired from Warhammer 40k, from Halo, from Star-trek, among countless other aesthetics and universes. The problem isn't aesthetic or whether it exists in canon lore, the problem is finding how to incorporate such things and thinking about the natural progression of technology within the Star Wars universe. Such a thing as this machine I made, would be created in the Star Wars universe.

For starters, we don't technically have a "No mechs" rule in place.
[Link] So then what is our 'mech' rule then, if we don't have one actually in place. Why was this pulled up and re-reviewed then?


3) Size: If it's very biomorphic, but really pretty small in the grand scheme of things (usually no greater than 5 meters in its biggest dimension),
[Link] Per what you have said, this is below the size of 5 meters.

Yes it is very biomorphic, however logic and the natural progression of technology stands to reason such a form would be taken for modernized remotely-controlled walker hybrids, such as this. Droid technology such as actual functional hands would of course be applied to such a thing, opposable thumbs are a great evolutionary trait. And, of course, such a thing would be applied to battle droids, as demonstrated in the B1 Battle Droid from canon. Such technology would, of course, be up-sized and retrofitted onto a larger machine such as this. Same with the humanoid form. A walker with two working arms that had hands and opposable thumbs would be far more effective than your standard AT-ST, the "Chicken Walker," as referenced in canon. Such a machine would be able to hold and work machinery and large weapons. While yes, such a thing could be a power-suit or exoskeleton, this mechanical platform that I have created nullifies such a thing. It doesn't need a pilot, it is simply, a ~4.5 meter tall robot that can be manually operated through basically advanced virtual reality linked with a neural interface system.

Mechs themselves, are capable and creatable in real life. While not a fully fledged concept, prototypes have been created and functional to an extent such as the Method-2 Robot.
Video #1, Video #2, Article #1 [All demonstrate and show the Method-2 Robot in action]

Now although prototypes, this directly shows and proves that such things are capable of being created in real-life with our current technology. The technology of the original trilogy and the sequel trilogy took inspiration from World War I and World War II. The prequel trilogy took inspiration from modern naval capabilities, going so far as to making the Venator-class Star Destroyer a fully functional aircraft carrier in functionality and overall concept and design. Adapting real life technology to Star Wars has never been a foreign concept, nor has adapting sci-fi technology from other sci-fi universes.

Star Wars has dyson spheres, dyson spheres which are spacial mega-structures that can generate lots of power, an almost impossible to comprehend amount, and an infinite amount as well, at least, theoretically. Star Wars also had the Death Star, Star-killer Base, and the Executor Super Star Destroyer and then the Supremacy-class Super Star Destroyer. All of these cost a ridiculous amount of, and yet they all exist in Star Wars. Now these things prove how advanced the technology of Star Wars is, it proves the capability of things that they can make. Reason and logic would dictate that, with all of this knowledge, they would know how to make something akin to a humanoid 'mech.' I mean, the Umbarans made centipede tanks, it stands to reason humanoid-esque walkers/mechs would be able to be created as well, they would be less ridiculous then centipede tanks and they would also cost far less resources. If anything, the reason we don't see such things as 'mechs' in the Star Wars universe is because they are possibly expensive to create and manufacture due to all of the complexities that would go in hand with making a single-pilot walker unit, whether they be in the machine operating it or remotely operating it from a distance.
 
[member="Kraken Society"], I don't agree with that it meets the guidelines that I have let out. In large part though, that's because those guidelines are subjective and open to different interpretation by different people. It would not appear that we both have the same idea of what's crossing the line when it comes to being biomorphic. That is something that the new guidelines currently be drafted will hopefully address adequately.

While I would agree that yes, it's theoretically possible to make a mech like you described in Star Wars, it does not currently fit in with the ambience of the Star Wars setting. That is the issue here, not if it's theoretically possible. I don't agree with you that we can simply take trends forward without any sort of limitation.

While I am always open to hearing different viewpoints, at the end of the day, I do expect my guidance to be followed. If you want clarification on if something will work or not to fit into the setting, please feel free to ask me. However, please do not argue with me further about what should or shouldn't be allowed. If you continue to argue with me about what should and shouldn't be allowed, you will get a Factory ban.
 

Huxy

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[member="Gir Quee"]

Gir, I apologize for my suspicions and worry, but I personally find it strange how, within the last few weeks, you have threatened to ban three people, including myself, because we've disagreed with you and offered you our viewpoints and reasoning as to why such things should be allowed and shouldn't be limited. None of whom have had a history of abusing submissions that they have made.

Look, I was in nowise trying to purposely argue with you, I was debating and discussing with you my viewpoint and why it would and should make sense for people to make and be able to make 'mech-like' factory subs. I apologize profusely if it came across that way, it was never my intention. However, if people are trying to offer their viewpoint and reasoning as to why something should be accepted into something that they have put effort into, they should not be threatened with a ban, that should never be a case. We both are interpreting such things differently yes, and that will lead to conflict but it should never go so far as a threat to banning somebody.

The factory, from what I've seen, needs to rework it's mass approval system if such things such as this happen. If mass-approved submissions are accepted and approved without any second thought from what you've told me.
Gir Quee said:
this was a mass-approved submission, meaning that no-one looked at it before it was approved.
If such issues and problems are happening, then something need to be changed and fixed with the current monthly approval system to stop something like this from happening. Even if this system is very much reactive to reports, which is a good idea, a more thorough look over should be applied to subs to ensure that things like this do not repeat themselves in the future. Auto-approving stuff, while it looks good on paper, can come with needless problems. I'm just going to throw this towards you as some advice for future factory submissions.

You have my permission to archive this submission, Gir.
 
Kraken Society said:
I apologize for my suspicions and worry, but I personally find it strange how, within the last few weeks, you have threatened to ban three people, including myself, because we've disagreed with you and offered you our viewpoints and reasoning as to why such things should be allowed and shouldn't be limited. None of whom have had a history of abusing submissions that they have made.

I will not threaten people with ban, even with some disagreement. No-one is every going to completely agree on everything, that's part of what makes us human. However, "broken record" statements or aggressive debating are not something that I or other Factory staff (including FJs) will entertain for long. This statement triggered my warning to you:

Kraken Society said:
I'll repeat again, this is not a mech.




Kraken Society said:
If such issues and problems are happening, then something need to be changed and fixed with the current monthly approval system to stop something like this from happening. Even if this system is very much reactive to reports, which is a good idea, a more thorough look over should be applied to subs to ensure that things like this do not repeat themselves in the future. Auto-approving stuff, while it looks good on paper, can come with needless problems. I'm just going to throw this towards you as some advice for future factory submissions.
It's much different than how the old system worked, that's intentional. The intent was to make it the submitter's job (not the Factory staff's job) to make sure that things are okay. Likewise, the community itself now acts as the primary enforcers of what is and isn't considered acceptable, hence why some of your subs may have escaped commentary or complaints so far. I do not go looking for subs to bring under review (again), other people do and bring them to my attention.
 
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